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[News] Mono Unrest Grows After Allison's Column

  • Subject: [News] Mono Unrest Grows After Allison's Column
  • From: Roy Schestowitz <newsgroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2009 00:41:26 +0100
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See comments in: Monomania


Consequences (If You Wait Long Enough)

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| Monomania
| Jeremy Allison argues that Mono is dangerous 
| to free software distributions and should be 
| relegated to the "restricted" repositories 
| along with other software with unsafe 
| licensing and/or patent contexts. He makes 
| rational arguments, avoids emotion and thus 
| when he is inevitably dismissed with a hand-
| wave by the Monomaniacs like the rest of us it 
| will be especially telling.


Android on the Rise, While .Net Takes a Blow

,----[ Quote ]
| Back in July, reports surfaced that the London 
| Stock Exchange had decided to abandon its 
| Windows-based TradElect system after suffering 
| a debilitating software crash the previous 
| fall.
| TradElect is a custom set of C# and .Net 
| programs created by Microsoft and Accenture.
| Instead, news came out last week that the LSE 
| will switch to the GNU/Linux-based 
| MillenniumIT system, even going so far as to 
| purchase its developer in the process!
| One sweet side benefit? Annual cost savings of 
| at least Pounds 10 million starting in 
| 2011/2012. Who could argue with that?!


Mono a mano - Many of us are wrestling with this, I suspect

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| Allison's contention is that while he can 
| understand original Mono creator Miguel de 
| Icaza's reasons for wanting to code GUI apps 
| in C# rather than C or C++, Allison would 
| rather that the open-source community turned 
| to Java instead in its quest to build out the 
| graphical environment. There is some talk 
| about, at the time Mono was started, Java not 
| being available under a free license, but 
| Allison contends that it has more to do with 
| potential or real rivalries among developers 
| wishing to use Java or Mono/C++, as well as 
| control over their respective projects.
| [...]
| On the other hand, seeing Mono as the "Miguel 
| de Icaza-who-works-for-Novell Show," keeping 
| in mind that I know little about him and have 
| never met him, doesn't give me a good feeling 
| about how GNOME is tipping every more closely 
| into becoming a Mono-powered world.




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| But the problem is that Mono is dangerous for
| Free Software. The heart of the matter is, as
| usual, software patents. Microsoft have patents
| on the technology inside .NET, and since the
| Tom Tom lawsuit, Microsoft have shown they are
| not averse to attacking Free Software using
| patent infringement claims. Microsoft have
| tried to allay some fears by putting the .NET
| specification under their "Microsoft Community
| Promise" which you can read here:
| http://www.microsoft.com/interop/cp/default.mspx
| Miguel hailed this a the solution to all the
| patent problems with Mono. But this promise is
| simply not good enough to base a language
| environment implementation upon. After all, if
| the rug is pulled out from under that
| implementation by the threat of patent
| infringement you don't just lose the
| implementation itself, you lose all the
| programs that depend upon it. That's a really
| dangerous situation for Free Software programs
| to be in. The Free Software Foundation wrote a
| good analysis of the problems with this promise
| here:
| http://www.fsf.org/news/2009-07-mscp-mono
| But my basic issue with the Microsoft Community
| Promise is that Miguel doesn't have to depend
| on it like everyone else does. Miguel's
| employer, Novell, has a patent agreement with
| Microsoft that exempts Mono users from
| Microsoft patent aggression, so long as you get
| Mono from Novell.
| [...]
| Microsoft isn't playing games any more by
| merely threatening to assert patents. Real
| lawsuits have now occurred and the gloves are
| off against Free Software. Moving Mono and its
| applications to the "restricted" repositories
| is now just plain common sense.


Mono is a trap â evidence

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| Still arenât convinced that Mono is a trap
| which ultimately only benefits Microsoft?
| Take a look at this âHighly Confidentialâ
| document from Microsoft (from Comes vs
| Microsoft case) entitled âEffective Evangelismâ
| and decide for yourself. It exposes Microsoftâs
| game plan for dominating the market with their
| platforms (which we already know, but some
| choose to ignore).

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