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[News] Moonlight Gets a Kick in the Gut, XAML Has Windows 'Extensions'

  • Subject: [News] Moonlight Gets a Kick in the Gut, XAML Has Windows 'Extensions'
  • From: Roy Schestowitz <newsgroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 17:38:33 +0000
  • Followup-to: comp.os.linux.advocacy
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Silverlight multi-platform support is falling apart.

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| Silverlight gives the multi-platform market to 
| flash
| 
| What I get from this decision is that the 
| objectives Microsoft had with Silverlight have 
| changed. It looks like competing with flash in 
| the wider, multi-platform market is taking a 
| back seat to the introduction of new 
| functionality. What Microsoft is pushing is 
| Silverlight as the default web based development 
| platform for Windows, with some limited 
| compatibility with non Windows platforms. This 
| goes in the opposite direction to Adobe Flash 
| which seems to favor a consistent set of 
| functionality and compatibility across all 
| platforms. Flash is not only available on 
| Windows, Mac and Linux, but also on the Wii, and 
| soon an ARM version should be released for 
| smartbooks. And that does not even cover gnash, 
| the open source version of flash that is more or 
| less to Flash what Moonlight is to Silverlight. 
| In short, Microsoft is giving up the multi-
| platform market to Adobe.
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http://www.tech-no-media.com/2009/11/silverlight-multiplatform-support-is.html

Comes Exhibit 2151 - Gates: "I have decided we should not publish these extensions."

,----[ Quote ]
| You might find it interesting to compare this 
| memo with Bill Gates' July 20, 1995 letter to 
| Novell's Robert Frankenberg, Microsoft's Exhibit 
| 15 [PDF] in its collection attached to its Cross 
| Motion for Summary Judgment. It's a hoot. 
| Frankenberg had complained about undocumented 
| calls, and Gates writes that both the FTC and 
| the DOJ has "thoroughly investigated" the 
| allegations and found them to be "not provable". 
| That was then. This is now. Here's my favorite 
| part of the letter:
| 
|     In fact, Microsoft goes out of its way to 
|     make early copies of API and protocol 
|     specifications available, hold design 
|     reviews (that even our competitors attend), 
|     and run the largest beta test programs in 
|     the industry. Novell has been invited to 
|     participate in many of these "Open Process" 
|     events -- and all without requiring a tit-
|     for-tat arrangement.
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http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20091125232420218


Recent:

Analysis: How Moonlight 2.0 Fits into Novell's Linux and Open Source Plans

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| But to critics of Novell's moves to align with Microsoft to offer Moonlight
| as a way to make Silverlight-enabled content work for Linux users, the bad
| karma continues. Instead of this being a good thing for Novell and Linux
| users, critics argue, the Moonlight project helps Microsoft maintain a
| leadership role in a development platform that only gives lip service to the
| open source community, they say.
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http://www.linux.com/news/software/applications/39062-analysis-how-moonlight-20-fits-into-novells-linux-and-open-source-


"So How Did Things Get to this Point? "

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| Novell's CEO, a former IBM/Windows guy, told us. He said he couldn't sell
| Linux against Windows. So, he sold out Linux and the FOSS community by
| implicitly claiming that Linux contains MS IP, and now pays ROYALTY to
| Microsoft for every copy of SLES sold, in return for special treatment and
| immunity from possible lawsuits.
|
| [...]
|
| As far as MONO and MoonLight being on a Linux desktop, Microsoft's James
| Plamondon said it best: "Every application written to Microsoft's standards
| is a WIN for Microsoft..."
|
| In other words, "He who controls the desktop API controls the desktop."
|
| My question has always been: "What advantage for Linux and FOSS is there in
| giving Microsoft direct or indirect control of the Linux desktop?"
|
| ABSOLUTELY NONE. To do so would result, eventually, in the destruction of
| Linux, a goal Microsoft has NEVER ceased to attain. So, why do certain people
| CONTINUE to campaign, even with hostility, in order to help Microsoft attain
| it's goal?
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http://www.linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2009-08-24-007-35-OS-NV-0000


Banshee UI to be in Moonlight

,----[ Quote ]
| Yes. Thatâs right. According to the GCDS 2009 presentation notes on the
| Banshee site, we learn lots of nice stuff about Banshee:
|
| âItâs not just an app, itâs a platformâ.
|
|     * Long term goal is to write the UI in Moonlight
|           o Declarative UI, canvas, scene graph, and toolkit
|           o Moonlight is an Open Source implementation of Microsoftâs
|           Silverlight technology â and it is awesome
|
| âBanshee is going to do photosâ
|
| âWe are re-basing the F-Spot core on top of Bansheeâ
|
| And it ends with GNOME, Mono and Banshee logos.
|
| Moonlight is of course, absolutely toxic unless you get it directly from
| Novell, as the so-called âcovenantâ specifically prohibits non-Novell
| distributions from distributing Moonlight
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http://mono-nono.com/2009/07/14/banshee-ui-to-be-in-moonlight/
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