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[News] MySQL Database Receives Promises from Oracle

  • Subject: [News] MySQL Database Receives Promises from Oracle
  • From: Roy Schestowitz <newsgroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 00:35:54 +0000
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Oracle customers and MySQL users speak out

,----[ Quote ]
| Behind closed doors, over Thursday and 
| Friday, the European Commission has been 
| holding a hearing on the proposed 
| acquisition of Sun Microsystems by Oracle. 
| The Wall Street Journal reports that 
| several Oracle customers, including the 
| Spanish bank BBVA, Vodafone UK, the 
| National Health Service and the Oracle 
| user group, spoke in support of the 
| acquisition. The hearing had been preceded 
| by an initiative by Oracle to mobilise 
| customers to speak out on the Commission's 
| objections to the takeover.
`----

http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Oracle-customers-and-MySQL-users-speak-out-884416.html

The European Commission and Oracle-Sun

,----[ Quote ]
| I spent last Thursday and Friday in 
| Brussels, attending the European 
| Commissionâs Oral Hearing in the 
| competition investigation of the 
| acquisition of Sun Microsystems by Oracle. 
| The proceedings at the Oral Hearing were 
| confidential; I cannot write about the 
| presentations made there by others. I can, 
| however, summarize the three points I made 
| during my brief presentation on Friday; my 
| previous written submission to the 
| commission is already available. I want to 
| explain what I said and where I think we 
| stand now that the Oral Hearing is over.
| 
| [...]
| 
| If the âremedyâ chosen is to permit the 
| merger unconditionally, the likeliest 
| outcome is the one most favorable to 
| competition. For its own business reasons, 
| Oracle will heavily invest in MySQLâs 
| future. In due course, Oracle should 
| upgrade the license of MySQL to GPLv3, and 
| should accept and integrate third-party 
| patches under that license. This will 
| provide safety from any future patent 
| aggression by any of the communityâs 
| members against the program. By 
| diversifying its copyright ownership, 
| MySQL will become a pure GPL commons. The 
| companies that currently sell MySQL in 
| proprietary combinations can continue to 
| use and upgrade their products with their 
| own maintenance and enhancements, if they 
| donât want to come into the GPL community. 
| Oracle will continue to have exactly the 
| same business reasons to support and lead 
| the MySQL community, and the same reasons 
| to be apprehensive for their position 
| should they be poor stewards of the 
| communityâs value. And everyone else can 
| invest in MySQL with the knowledge that 
| they will always have access to the value 
| of everyone elseâs investments as well as 
| their own. The modularity and flexibility 
| of MySQLâs architecture will maximize the 
| extent of the value everyone can realize 
| from the commons. By selling support for 
| the worldâs most installed database, 
| Oracle can project itself everywhere that 
| Microsoft SQL Server might want to go, and 
| can drive SQL Server into competition with 
| a price-zero GPLâd community product, 
| which experience as well as theory shows 
| is a game Microsoft canât win.
| 
| So the GPL ensures robust and beneficial 
| competition in the global software 
| industry. Once again. 
`----

http://moglen.law.columbia.edu/blog/cases/oracle-sun/ec-hearing-and-after.html

MySQL Needs Your Help, Now!

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| Second, the idea that Oracle should not 
| acquire MySQL without limitations or 
| conditions has been championed by such 
| luminaries as Richard Stallman. While Eben 
| Moglen wrote a missive on behalf of 
| Oracle, his idea that any fork using GPL 
| code has the exact same business 
| opportunities Oracle has is, plainly, 
| absurd. It shows a deep misunderstanding 
| of how MySQLâs dual licensing has worked 
| to build a viable business from Free 
| Software. In short, Stallman âgets it,â 
| Moglen does not.
`----

http://blogs.gnome.org/mneptok/2009/12/13/mysql-needs-your-help-now/

Oracle concessions on Sun merger get EC thumbs up

,----[ Quote ]
| Oracle's planned acquisition of Sun 
| Microsystems looks set to win regulatory 
| approval by the European Commission.
| 
| The companies' latest promises to 
| safeguard competition in the market for 
| database software, make the Commission 
| optimistic that the case will have a 
| satisfactory outcome, it said today. 
`----

http://www.computerworlduk.com/management/it-business/supplier-relations/news/index.cfm?newsid=17995

Oracle-Sun merger gains favor in Europe

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| The Commission, Europe's top antitrust 
| regulator, hosted a two-day hearing at the 
| end of last week, giving Oracle the chance 
| to defend its planned deal with Sun. Since 
| then, officials in the Commission's 
| competition division have been engaged in 
| discussions with Oracle over the weekend 
| about how to allow the deal to go ahead 
| without harming Sun's open source 
| database, MySQL.
`----

http://www.infoworld.com/t/database-management-systems/oracle-sun-merger-gains-favor-in-europe-122

Oracle makes commitments on MySQL - Update

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| Oracle has publicly committed to enhance 
| MySQL under the GPL, not force third 
| parties to GPL their storage engines and 
| increase spending on MySQL development. 
| The promises were part of ten commitments  
| in a press statement which Oracle says is 
| the result of "constructive discussions 
| with the European Commission". This is a 
| reference to the hearings which took place 
| on Thursday and Friday at the Commission, 
| which is deciding on whether to allow 
| Oracle to acquire Sun Microsystems, 
| current owner of MySQL. It is believed 
| that the Commission may make a decision 
| today (Monday the 14th) or within the next 
| two weeks as a result of the hearings.
`----

http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Oracle-makes-commitments-on-MySQL-Update-884532.html

Open Source, MySQL, and trademarks

,----[ Quote ]
| Greg Stein (Apache developer and all-
| around nice guy) made an off-hand comment 
| about open source trademarks in an 
| article(How to Screw Your (Open Source 
| Software) Customers). He was talking about 
| how many users of MySQL have actually 
| using a purchased proprietary licensed 
| copy of the software, and not the open 
| source licensed copy. MySQL's business 
| model uses dual licensing: the GPL, and 
| for the folks whom its strictures are 
| unacceptable, a standard proprietary 
| license. I agree with his point in 
| general: that that's a great way to 
| confuse your customers into thinking that 
| they're using open source software.
`----

http://opensource.org/node/496


Recent:

EU Regulators to Further Consider Oracle-Sun Acquisition

,----[ Quote ]
| The European Union's Competition
| Commissioner is optimistic that European
| Commission will reach "a satisfactory
| outcome" and ultimately approve Oracle's
| acquisition of Sun Microsystems, Reuters
| reported Wednesday. Neelie Kroes made the
| comments in anticipation of a two-day
| hearing on the matter, which is slated to
| begin  Thursday.
`----

http://www.itbusinessedge.com/cm/blogs/bentley/eu-regulators-to-further-consider-oracle-sun-acquisition/?cs=38044


Microsoft to sing at EC Oracle hearing

,----[ Quote ]
| Microsoft will testify to the European
| Commission later this week in the ongoing
| debate on whether the Eurocrats will bless
| Oracle's Sun-acquisition plans.
|
| A Microsoft spokesperson told ZDNet that
| Redmond "can confirm participation at the
| hearing and that the company has previously
| responded to inquiry from the Commission
| about the deal." The hearing will be held
| this Thursday and Friday in Brussels.
|
| Exactly what Microsoft will tell the
| Commission, however, is far from clear. As
| ZDNet notes, The Wall Street Journal reports
| that both Microsoft and SAP "have already
| told antitrust regulators they oppose the
| merger."
`----

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/12/09/blue_destiny_suit_against_google_and_microsoft/


Microsoft to testify at Oracle/Sun European Commission hearing

http://blogs.zdnet.com/microsoft/?p=4735


Oracle/Sun Merger Opponents To Speak At EU Hearing - Sources

http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-20091208-710542.html
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