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[News] Microsoft Thugs Sue Linux-using TiVo and Lie to the Public

  • Subject: [News] Microsoft Thugs Sue Linux-using TiVo and Lie to the Public
  • From: Roy Schestowitz <newsgroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2010 18:40:49 +0000
  • Followup-to: comp.os.linux.advocacy
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Microsoft Sues TiVo - The Why of It

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| That's, in my view, Microsoft spin, that 
| it's doing this to help out AT&T. I would 
| describe it more like this: remember when 
| SCO sued AutoZone for using Linux in its 
| business? AutoZone didn't write Linux. It 
| just used it. So SCO sued an end user. 
| Similarly, TiVo is suing AT&T. But AT&T 
| didn't write Microsoft Mediaroom, the 
| implicated software. Microsoft did. So 
| naturally, AT&T has demanded that Microsoft 
| indemnify AT&T, and so here comes 
| Microsoft, essentially defending itself, 
| because if AT&T loses, it's Microsoft who 
| has to shell out the bucks.
| 
| [...]
| 
| In short, the PR version is that Microsoft 
| is defending AT&T as a Good Samaritan. The 
| reality as I read this is the Microsoft is 
| defending itself, because if AT&T loses, 
| Microsoft faces having to pay yet another 
| pile of bucks for having infringed 
| someone's patent, just like what just 
| happened to it in the i4i v. Microsoft 
| patent case Microsoft lost and is 
| appealing. That is what is at stake in this 
| picture. You can see that very clearly in 
| footnote 1 on that same page:
| 
|     1 If TiVo is willing to state on the 
|     record that it is not accusing and will 
|     not accuse the software used in the U-
|     verse product and/or service, including 
|     any aspect of Microsoft Mediaroom, of 
|     infringing the TiVo patents, 
|     intervention by Microsoft would be 
|     unnecessary.
| 
| [...]
| 
| So, this isn't about helping out a friend. 
| This is about Microsoft selling software 
| that someone is claiming is patent 
| infringing. Again. AT&T is just using 
| Microsoft Mediaroom. That's why when it got 
| sued, it called up Microsoft. So Microsoft 
| is defending itself. You have to hand it to 
| its PR people, though. They get their spin 
| in print.
| 
| [...]
| 
| In short, friends, this story has 
| absolutely nothing to do with Linux. I knew 
| you'd wonder, because that was my first 
| thought, too, that maybe this was another 
| TomTom. It's not. And as for TiVo, TiVo may 
| use Linux in its business, but it has not 
| shown any inclination to adopt FOSS values. 
| Linux folks don't sue people over patents. 
| Some of us remember the GPLv3 discussions, 
| and I'd say we nailed it.
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http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=2010012014205446

Showdown: Microsoft vs. TiVo in legal battle over DVR patents

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| Microsoft has filed a patent-infringement 
| case against TiVo in one federal court and 
| asked to intervene in a dispute between 
| TiVo and AT&T in another federal court -- 
| setting the stage for a legal battle over 
| some of the most popular features used to 
| watch television on digital video 
| recorders.
`----

http://www.techflash.com/seattle/2010/01/microsoft_tivo_in_patent_showdown.html

Microsoft sues TiVo in AT&T solidarity play

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/01/21/microsoft_sues_tivo/

Microsoft Sues TiVo Over Patents 

http://paidcontent.org/article/419-microsoft-sues-tivo-over-patents/

Microsoft Sues TiVo In Attempt To Defend Partner AT&T

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| Microsoft Corp. (MSFT) is suing TiVo Inc. 
| (TIVO) as part of a broader attempt to 
| provide legal cover for partner AT&T Inc. 
| (T).
| 
| Microsoft late Tuesday filed a suit against 
| TiVo in a San Francisco federal court, 
| claiming that the Alviso, Calif., maker of 
| digital video recorders illegally uses 
| technology related to purchasing and 
| delivering video and the ability to display 
| programming information. Both are seen as 
| an attempt to counter an earlier suit filed 
| by TiVo against AT&T, which uses 
| Microsoft's technology in its television 
| service. Microsoft on Friday requested to 
| intervene in the case on AT&T's behalf.
| 
| Microsoft is standing up for AT&T because 
| the telecommunications company is the 
| largest, and most influential, customer of 
| its Internet video platform. When AT&T 
| chose to go with an Internet-based TV 
| service, it opted to work with Microsoft, 
| which powers the video delivery platform, 
| as well as the digital video recording 
| technology. As a result, it feels the need 
| to shoulder the legal burden for AT&T.
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http://www.nasdaq.com/aspx/stock-market-news-story.aspx?storyid=201001201230dowjonesdjonline000565&title=microsoft-sues-tivo-in-attempt-to-defend-partner-att


Recent:

Dish plans to sustain legal fight with TiVo

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| "You know, I know this case inside and out," Ergen said in a conference call
| with analysts Monday. "We have changed that intellectual property in a way we
| don't violate (TiVo's patent) anymore. I'm just stubborn enough to say, 'Why
| am I going to pay for something that we don't violate?' "
`----

http://www.rockymountainnews.com/news/2008/aug/05/dish-plans-to-sustain-legal-fight-with-tivo/


How TiVo won

,----[ Quote ]
| And now, at last, there seems to be a path to profitability. A successful
| courtroom defense of its software patents laid the groundwork for what many
| analysts believe to be a coming period of exponential growth. In January, a
| federal appeals court upheld that digital recorders distributed by The Dish
| Network (owned by EchoStar (SATS)) infringed on several Tivo patents,
| including one that allows viewers to simultaneously view one show while
| watching another.      
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http://money.cnn.com/2008/03/03/technology/simons_tivowalkup.fortune/?postversion=2008030505


TiVo and YouTube to Deliver Web Video to TV

,----[ Quote ]
| Pick up the remote, turn on the television â and watch YouTube.
|
| The user experience envisioned by technology enthusiasts came a step closer
| to reality on Wednesday when TiVo, the maker of popular digital video
| recorders, announced a partnership with YouTube that will deliver Web video
| directly to usersâ televisions.
`----

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/12/technology/12cnd-tivo.html?_r=1&oref=slogin


Linux hacker bounty aims TiVo at mobile gadgets

,----[ Quote ]
| A TiVo upgrade/repair specialist and a vendor of tiny Linux-based DVRs
| (digital video recorders) have partnered on a coding contest. DRVupgrade and
| Neuros will pay $3,500 for hacks enabling Neuros's gadget DVR to track TiVo
| selections, recording the same content for playback on mobile devices.  
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http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS8485261245.html


TiVo âHooks Upâ With PayPerPost

,----[ Quote ]
| Pay Per Post has been a very controversial company from the start. Because
| they pay individuals to make fake user generated content, that are really
| covert advertisements for sponsors, the FTC has even expressed some concerns
| over the truth in advertising issues related to their service.  
`----

http://www.zatznotfunny.com/2007-10/tivo-hooks-up-with-pay-per-post/


TiVoToGo DRM cracked

,----[ Quote ]
| Megazone over at TiVo Lovers is reporting that someone's cracTiVoked
| the DRM on TiVoToGo, letting you export recorded programs from a TiVo
| for viewing on any device.
`----

http://www.pvrwire.com/2006/12/03/tivotogo-drm-cracked/


Gunning for Tivo in the GPL debate

,----[ Quote ]
| In the ongoing battle between Linux kernel developers and the Free
| Software Foundation (FSF) over the future of the GNU Public License
| (GPL), somehow DVR-maker Tivo has become either the whipping boy or
| the poster child, depending on whose side you are on. FSF founder
| Richard Stallman even coined a term for what he sees as misuse of the
| GPL: "tivoization".
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http://uk.builder.com/0,39026540,39338597,00.htm
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