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[News] [Rival] Microsoft an Undesirable Working Place, Google Beats it by Huge Margins

  • Subject: [News] [Rival] Microsoft an Undesirable Working Place, Google Beats it by Huge Margins
  • From: Roy Schestowitz <newsgroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 10:52:07 +0000
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SAS, Google top Fortune's best-employer list

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| Among the technology firms that ended up on 
| Fortune's list were SAS at No. 1, Google at 
| No. 4, Cisco Systems at No. 16, Adobe 
| Systems at No. 42, and Microsoft at No. 51. 
| The firms scored points for a couple of 
| different factors, including top pay and 
| best perks. And with the job market still 
| tight, Fortune also looked at the job 
| growth for each company.


Steve Ballmer, did you âfucking kill Googleâ yet?

,----[ Quote ]
| Well About 1/2 a decade ago, a key 
| individual defected from Microsoft to 
| Google that lead to one heck of lawsuit. 
| According to official documents, Steve said 
| he was going to âfucking kill Googleâ as he 
| hurled a chair across the room. literally.
| [...]
| We were just wondering Mr. Ballmer, did you 
| âfucking kill Googleâ yet? We figured 1/2 a 
| decade has passed now and we were just 
| wondering the status of it.


Two futures of the internet: Cold War or up in the clouds

,----[ Quote ]
| If you think this is creepy, then join the 
| club. In terms of collective IQ, Google is 
| the smartest company in cyberspace: for 
| five years it's been taking the cleverest 
| graduates from elite universities and the 
| most experienced computer engineers. It's 
| been such a magnet for talent that even 
| Microsoft is enraged. In 2005, for example, 
| an ex-Microsoft engineer named Mark 
| Lucovsky alleged in a sworn statement to a 
| Washington state court that Steve Ballmer, 
| Microsoft's chief executive, became so 
| enraged on hearing that Lucovsky was about 
| to leave Microsoft for Google, that he 
| picked up his chair, and threw it across 
| his office. (Ballmer called this a "gross 
| exaggeration".)


Microsoft: Google Likely to Face Questions on Ads


Microsoft lawyer: Google may face antitrust queries over search advertising market share


Armstrong Hints AOL Will Renew Search Deal With Google: "Distribution Is Almost As Important To Us As Money"

,----[ Quote ]
| During today's AOL earnings call, which 
| just finished, CEO Tim Armstrong dropped 
| the strongest hint yet that Google is the 
| front-runner in negotiations for who will 
| power search across AOL properties. Google 
| is AOL's current partner, as it has been 
| for nearly a decade, but snatching the 
| search partnership away would be a coup for 
| Microsoft's Bing search engine. Bing wants 
| the search deal, which would help it 
| increase its total volume of searches by a 
| couple percentage points since AOL on its 
| own has the fifth largest search share in 
| the U.S. 


Germans and French more likely to Google themselves 

,----[ Quote ]
| Germans and Frenchmen are more likely to 
| Google themselves than are Brits and 
| Americans.



The Google Books Settlement Culture Clash, and What About Fair Use?

,----[ Quote ]
| That's the dream of more than book
| publishers. Here's an exhibit from the
| Comes v. Microsoft antitrust case of a few
| years back, Exhibit 3590 [PDF]. It's a
| discussion in 1994 with Bill Gates and his
| executives about the Internet, and it
| includes an email from Nathan Myhrvold on
| how Microsoft could in time take over
| control of the Internet.
| [...]
| Old-fashioned copyright owners want the
| Internet to cut it out and be about them
| feeding us content and we sit back and
| just consume what they send us. After we
| pay. And agree to DRM.
| Of course, it's funny, what Myhrvold
| wrote, in that they totally missed the
| boat about the Internet, and about Linux,
| but that's a good thing. They probably
| could have killed Linux early on, had they
| tried. Their arrogance has cost them. It's
| too late now, hopefully, to just crush it,
| not that they haven't been trying. They'll
| have to buy community members to sell out
| and write their software to run on Windows
| instead of Linux now one by one, if they
| can find enough greedy types, and that
| takes longer even in Microsoft's best case
| scenario.
| [...]
| I hope the EU Commission is reading
| Groklaw at moments like this. The email is
| from 1995, but didn't they do what he
| suggested? I'm remembering the Microsoft
| extensions to HTML. I'm also thinking
| about OOXML. There's lots more in the
| exhibit about their browser plans, but are
| you thinking Silverlight? I am. Here's a
| snip from one last exhibit, Exhibit 3589
| [PDF], an email thread with a memo shared
| with the top brass at Microsoft on how to
| get the Internet away from open standards
| bit by bit:
|     I recommend a recipe not unlike the
|     one we've used with our TCP/IP
|     efforts: embrace, extend, then
|     innovate.
|     Phase I (Embrace): all participants
|     need to establish a solid
|     understanding of the infostructure and
|     the community - determine the needs
|     and the trends of the user base. Only
|     then can we effectively enable
|     Microsoft system products to be great
|     Internet systems.
|     Phase II (Extend): establish
|     relationships with the appropriate
|     organizations and corporations with
|     goals similar to ours. Offer well-
|     integrated tools and services
|     compatible with established and
|     popular standards that have been
|     developed in the Internet community.
|     Phase 3 (Innovate): move into a
|     leadership role with new Internet
|     standards as appropriate, enable
|     standard off-the-shelf titles with
|     Internet awareness. Change the rules:
|     Windows becomes the next-generation
|     Internet tool of the future.
| Are you reading this Apache guys? Ubuntu
| Mono freaks? In the "Potential Risks"
| section on page 15:
|     Microsoft/Internet Culture Clash. -
|     One of the biggest challenges facing
|     Microsoft's success in the Internet
|     community is acceptance and respect.
|     Although we have an incredible amount
|     of respect in the commercial software
|     business, the Internet has been
|     founded on public domain protocols and
|     products which generally included
|     source availability at no charge. It
|     has been only recently that vendors
|     have suggested profiting from the
|     Internet by selling the browsing tools
|     and technologies, and offering
|     commercial services on the Internet
|     itself. The information and software
|     has been free for 15 years, we need to
|     be careful to embrace the current
|     technologies and community before we
|     attempt to reshape it.
| Put 'Open Source' everywhere in that snip
| where it says 'Internet' and you have the
| picture. They pretend to be with you,
| sharing goals, and then they win. If you
| are stupid enough to fall for the "let's
| be friends" part of their scheme.
| Their concept of the Internet is that it's
| a strip mall. They want it to be their
| strip mall.

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