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[News] Sun's CEO Reveals That Bill Gates, Steve Ballmer, and Steve Jobs Bullies Sun Over Linux and OOo

  • Subject: [News] Sun's CEO Reveals That Bill Gates, Steve Ballmer, and Steve Jobs Bullies Sun Over Linux and OOo
  • From: Roy Schestowitz <newsgroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 20:56:53 +0000
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Good Artists Copy, Great Artists Steal

,----[ Quote ]
| I feel for Google â Steve Jobs threatened 
| to sue me, too.
| In 2003, after I unveiled a prototype Linux 
| desktop called Project Looking Glass*, 
| Steve called my office to let me know the 
| graphical effects were âstepping all over 
| Appleâs IP.â (IP = Intellectual Property = 
| patents, trademarks and copyrights.) If we 
| moved forward to commercialize it, âIâll 
| just sue you.â
| [...]
| As in life, bluster and threat are 
| commonplace in business â especially the 
| technology business. So that interaction 
| was good preparation for a later meeting 
| with Bill Gates and Steve Ballmer. Theyâd 
| flown in over a weekend to meet with Scott 
| McNealy, Sunâs then CEO â who asked me and 
| Greg Papadopoulos (Sunâs CTO) to accompany 
| him. As we sat down in our Menlo Park 
| conference room, Bill skipped the small 
| talk, and went straight to the point, 
| âMicrosoft owns the office productivity 
| market, and our patents read all over 
| OpenOffice.â OpenOffice is a free office 
| productivity suite found on tens of 
| millions of desktops worldwide. Itâs a 
| tremendous brand ambassador for its owner â 
| it also limits the appeal of Microsoft 
| Office to businesses and those forced to 
| pirate it. Bill was delivering a slightly 
| more sophisticated variant of the threat 
| Steve had made, but he had a different 
| solution in mind. âWeâre happy to get you 
| under license.â That was code for âWeâll go 
| away if you pay us a royalty for every 
| downloadâ â the digital version of a 
| protection racket.


Jonathan Schwartz: What He Couldn't Say (on Patents, OpenOffice, and Bill Gates)


Jonathan Schwartz: How to play patent games with Steve Jobs, Bill Gates


Former Sun CEO Schwartz dishes on patent fights with Jobs, Gates

,----[  ]
| Former Sun Microsystems CEO Jonathan 
| Schwartz has a nice insider take on the 
| latest patent craze including how he sent 
| Apple's Steve Jobs and Microsoft's Bill 
| Gates packing when they came looking for a 
| fight. 
| [...]
| In the case of Bill Gates, Schwartz said 
| Gates tried to extract a licensing royalty 
| for OpenOffice, a free productivity suite 
| developed by Sun, because Gates said it 
| copied Microsoft Office.
| Schwartz responded by drawing comparisons 
| between Microsoft's .NET platform and Sun's 
| Java technology, which he believed was some 
| of the inspiration for .NET. "We've looked 
| at .NET, and you're trampling all over a 
| huge number of Java patents. So what will 
| you pay us for every copy of Windows?" 
| Schwartz asked. That brought the meeting to 
| a hasty close, he said.



Popularity is killing Android

,----[ Quote ]
| AS ANDROID SWEEPS across the smartphone
| market like a wave of locusts over a land
| that is strewn with Windows Mobile devices
| cast by the wayside, Google's idealistic
| open source, embrace all attitude is
| starting to look naive.


Would 2010 Steve Jobs Sue 1996 (Or 1984) Steve Jobs Over Patents?

,----[ Quote ]
| ...Steve Jobs noted how Apple was
| "shameless about stealing great ideas."
| But in the announcement about the HTC
| lawsuit, he has a different perspective:
| "competitors should create their own
| original technology, not steal ours."


Eversheds comment: Apple sues HTC for patent infringements

,----[ Quote ]
| Commentators suggest that this action by
| Apple is actually targeted at Google's
| open source Android operating system,
| rather than relating just to HTC's
| smartphones. HTC is one of the most
| prominent handset manufacturers globally
| to have developed products based on the
| Android operating system, using it in its
| Hero and Nexus One phones.



,----[ Quote ]
| Apple's iTunes store has always dictated
| the terms of its dealings with record
| labels. As such, the largest U.S. music
| retailer has never censured the labels
| over marketing or promotion strategies.


Apple May Anger The Antitrust Gods: Pressuring Labels To Stop Participating In Amazon Daily MP3 Deals


Steve Jobs, 1996: "Good Artists Copy, Great Artists Steal"

,----[ Quote ]
| Oh, hello! A trip to the YouTube wayback
| machine shows that 1996's Steve "Great
| Artists Steal" Jobs might have taken issue
| with Steve Jobs 2010, and his patent
| lawsuit firebombing of HTC. Irony!
| The comment was made during a 1996 PBS
| documentary called "Triumph of the Nerds,"
| and looks a smidge hypocritical in light
| of today's events. As does this one...


Steve Jobs: Good artists copy great artists steal


Apple Goes Offensive On Patents: Sues HTC

,----[ Quote ]
| It's usually a sign that a company is
| worried that it can't keep up with the
| competition.


An Open Letter to Steve Jobs Concerning the HTC Lawsuits.

,----[ Quote ]
| But when you sue someone for doing
| something you do yourself, you become one
| of the bad guys. Can you name a company
| you admire that spends its time enforcing
| patents, instead of innovating? Remember
| the pirate flag you flew over Apple's
| headquarters when you were building the
| Mac? Is Apple part of the Navy now?


Steve Jobs and Rupert Murdoch: Letâs Sue the Internet

,----[ Quote ]
| So Apple is suing HTC, the premier
| manufacturer of Android-based phones,
| including Googleâs Nexus One. And Rupert
| Murdoch is suing Googleâor so he says.
| [...]
| Itâs a Steve thing. Not just a temper
| tantrum. But an operatic one. Itâs Steve
| Jobsâ signature: pride and paranoia.
| Behind it, too, is the motivation of all
| great competitorsâthey really donât want
| to compete, they want the market for
| themselves. Now itâs Google, rather than
| Microsoft, copying him. Itâs Googleâs
| phone heâs out to get. Heâs pissed off:
| Google controls the Internet and all he
| controls is his rotten phone.


Apple sues HTC over phone patents


Apple sues HTC for patent infringements in Android phones


Apple Goes After HTC In Lawsuit Over 20 iPhone Patents

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| Apple is using its strong patent portfolio
| to fight iPhone competitors in court. Its
| latest target is HTC. Apple has filed a
| patent infringement lawsuit against the cell
| phone manufacturer. The suit involves â20
| Apple patents related to the iPhoneâs user
| interface, underlying architecture and
| hardware.â
| Steve Jobs is quoted in a press release
| saying: âWe can sit by and watch competitors
| steal our patented inventions, or we can do
| something about it. Weâve decided to do
| something about it. We think competition is
| healthy, but competitors should create their
| own original technology, not steal ours.â
| The lawsuit itself is not available yet
| online. Weâve asked Apple for a copy.


Apple Taps ITC to Kneecap Google

,----[ Quote ]
| Apple has enlisted the patent court and the
| U.S. International Trade Commission in an
| effort to kneecap Google. The company this
| morning filed a lawsuit against HTC â which
| makes Googleâs Nexus One, among other
| Android handsets â claiming the Taiwanese
| manufacturer has infringed on 20 of its
| patents ârelated to the iPhoneâs user
| interface, underlying architecture and
| hardware.â But the move may have more to do
| with Androidâs rapid growth than actual
| patent sins.


Apple Sues HTC For 20 Patent Violations In Phones

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