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[News] Part of the OOXML Scam, Alex Brown, Admits Microsoft Does Not Comply

  • Subject: [News] Part of the OOXML Scam, Alex Brown, Admits Microsoft Does Not Comply
  • From: Roy Schestowitz <newsgroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 02 Apr 2010 08:41:44 +0100
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Microsoft Fails the Standards Test

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| Microsoft has many enemies who will no doubt 
| see the current state of affairs as proof that 
| Microsoft never even intended to be good 
| standards citizens. Indeed standards and XML 
| veteran Tim Bray, writing shortly after the 
| standardâs approval, made a prediction which 
| could now seem impressively prophetic:
| âItâs Kind of Sad â The coverage suggests that 
| future enhancements to 29500, as worked 
| through by a subcommittee of a subcommittee of 
| a standards committee, are actually going to 
| have some influence on Microsoft. Um, maybe 
| thereâs an alternate universe in which 
| Redmond-based program managers and developers 
| are interested in the opinions of a subgroup 
| of ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC 34, but this isnât it.
| I suppose theyâll probably show up to the 
| meetings and try to act interested, but itâs 
| going to be a sideline and nobody important 
| will be there. What Microsoft really wanted 
| was that ISO stamp of approval to use as a 
| marketing tool. And just like your mother told 
| you, when they get what they want and have 
| their way with you, theyâre probably not gonna 
| call you in the morning.â


"ISO is dead for software standards. Do you need an official funeral?"

                                --Benjamin Henrion, FFII


OpenXML: What I havenât told yet about the BRM

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| Why Alex Brown, even knowing the importance
| of the issue, shamelessly manipulated the
| meeting to prevent the proposal presentation
| by Brazil ?
| I think many of these questions will stay
| unanswered, but Iâd really like to
| understand what motivated the Alex Brown to
| change in such an outrageous way the course
| (and outcome) of OpenXML in ISO.
| Since this meeting ended in Geneva, I
| havenât spent even one day of my life
| without wondering: What would have happened
| if we had presented our proposal, and what
| motivated Alex Brown to manipulate in such a
| way that meeting?
| Now that everyone knows the âbackstageâ of
| Alex Brownâs decision, preventing Brazil to
| present the binary mapping proposal of the
| last BRM day, a few comments are pertinent.
| Reviewing everything that happened during
| the BRM, the manipulation of the meeting
| progress by Alex Brown is getting more and
| more evident, and itâs also clear that he
| was responsible for enforcing the hidden
| agenda of the meeting. A quick search on his
| blog, his âcontributionsâ to OpenXML in ISO
| and his relationship with ECMA (and ECMA
| members), will show the close relationship
| he has with OpenXML (and this is the minimum
| I can write about it).
| An example of such manipulation of the
| agenda is clear and obvious: The ECMA
| delegation (as far as I remember ECMA isnât
| a ISO National Body) had 30 minutes in each
| of the first two days of the BRM to make a
| speeches about âlegacy compatibilityâ. In
| summary, the Brazilian delegation (which is
| an ISO National Body), couldnât speak for
| lack of time, but the ECMA had 30 minutes in
| each of the first two days of the meeting to
| make their speech. This stupidity didnât
| happened on the other days of the BRM
| because on the second day of the BRM, during
| a meeting between Alex Brown and the HoDs,
| Deivi (head of the Brazilian delegation)
| filed a protest against these ECMAâs
| speeches.
| Talking about ECMAâs speeches, one of those
| was given by a representative of the British
| Library, and I mention this fact because I
| have the impression that the triad British
| Library, Alex Brown and Microsoft may turn
| on some lights for my U.K. friends ( and I
| would love to know what they have to say
| about it).



Martin Bryan: we are getting âstandardization by corporationâ

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| A November informative report of Martin Bryan, Convenor, ISO/IEC JTC1/SC34
| WG1 highlights the fallout of the ECMA-376 fast-track process for ISO. He
| says he is 'glad to be retiring before the situation becomes impossible'
| [...]
| In what is an astonishingly outspoken report, Martin Bryan, Convenor, ISO/IEC
| JTC1/SC34 WG1 has given us insight into the total mess that Microsoft/ECMA
| have caused during their scandalous, underhand and unremitting attempts to
| get - what is a very poorly written specification {i.e. DIS 29500 aka OOXML,
| AR} - approved as an ISO standard. â


Dysfunctional ISO - Courtesy of Microsoft


Microsoft accused of stacking ISO committee

,----[ Quote
| In a memo sent following his last meeting as head of the working group on
| WG1, which is handling Microsoftâs application to make the Word format an ISO
| standard as ECMA 376, outgoing Governor Martin Bryan (above), an expert on
| SGML and XML, accused the company of stacking his group.

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