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[News] Why Sony Should Issue Refunds for "Other OS"

  • Subject: [News] Why Sony Should Issue Refunds for "Other OS"
  • From: Roy Schestowitz <newsgroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2010 22:17:55 +0100
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Sony falls short with system update to PS3

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| The issue isnât that users are losing the 
| ability to install Linux on their machines, 
| but whether a company can remove a feature 
| after purchase. Owners must agree to what 
| is called an âEnd User License Agreementâ 
| upon purchase, which explicitly states that 
| revisions to the firmware are expected; if 
| the agreement also says that Sony can 
| engage in some nefarious bait-and-switch 
| scheme, though, the agreement can be 
| challenged in court.
`----

http://thedailycougar.com/2010/04/16/sony-falls-short-with-system-update-to-ps3/

Sony refuses to sanction PS3 refunds

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| Sony says that it has no intention of 
| reimbursing retailers if they offer fat PS3 
| users partial refunds because of the 
| removal of the Install Other OS function.
| 
| Last week, the first PS3 user successfully 
| secured a partial refund from Amazon UK as 
| compensation for the removal of the ability 
| to run Linux on the console.
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http://www.thinq.co.uk/news/2010/4/14/sony-refuses-to-sanction-ps3-refunds/

Quotes of Sony promoting the OtherOS feature

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| Taken from the Playstation.com forums (nice 
| work!):
| ----------------
| 
| CREDIT goes to Xrobx who posted these in 
| another thread and i wanted to make sure 
| that everyone sees them...
| 
| Sony Computer Entertainment Inc.:
| "In addition to playing games, watching 
| movies, listening to music, and viewing 
| photos, you can use the PS3 system to run 
| the Linux operating system. By installing 
| the Linux operating system, you can use the 
| PS3 system not only as an entry-level 
| personal computer with hundreds of familiar 
| applications for home and office use, but 
| also as a complete development environment 
| for the Cell Broadband Engine (Cell/B.E.)."
| http://www.playstation.com/ps3-openplatform/index.html [playstation.com]
| 
| (http://74.125.113.132/search?q=cache:byasL-PxEiMJ:www.playstation.com/ps3-openplatform/index.html+http://www.playstation.com/ps3-openplatform/index.html&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=safari) 
| - google's cached page of the above hyperlink from March 30th 
| 2010 which does not say anything about FW 3.21 
| removing Other OS. I've saved the page in case it 
| goes offline, copy http address into browser as 
| link probably won't work. Or, just search google
| and get the cached page. - kiyyto.
| 
| Phil Harrison, February 2007,
| President of Sony Computer Entertainment Worldwide Studios 2005-2008:
| "One of the most powerful things about the 
| PS3 is the 'Install Other OS' option."
| http://kotaku.com/235049/20-questions-with-phil-harrison-at-dice [kotaku.com]
| 
| Sony Computer Entertainment Inc., 
| 2006-2009:
| "The Linux Distributor's Starter Kit 
| provides information, binary and source 
| codes to Linux Distribution developers who 
| wants to make their distro support PS3."
| http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux [kernel.org]
| 
| Izumi Kawanishi, Sony, May 2006:
| "Because we have plans for having Linux on 
| board [the PS3], we also recognize Linux 
| programming activities... Other than game 
| studios tied to official developer 
| licenses, we'd like to see various 
| individuals participate in content creation 
| for the PS3."
| http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=9290 [gamasutra.com]
| 
| Geoffrey Levand, August 2009,
| Principal Software Engineer at Sony  
| Corporation:
| "Please be assured that SCE is committed to 
| continue the support for previously sold 
| models that have the "Install Other OS" 
| feature and that this feature will not be 
| disabled in future firmware releases."
| mailing list to PS3 customers using Linux
| 
| Phil Harrison, May 2006,
| President of Sony Computer Entertainment 
| Worldwide Studios 2005-2008:
| "The Playstation 3 is a computer. We do not 
| need the PC."
| http://www.spiegel.de/netzwelt/web/0,1518,418642,00.html [spiegel.de]
| SONY
| Make.Believe... you didn't see that
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http://games.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1620568&cid=31869090


Recent:

Sony Admits Wrong

,----[ Quote ]
| This is a prime example of bait and switch.
|
| How can Sony be allowed to do this to
| consumers and not face legal issues.
`----

http://www.kgw.com/your-pics/90577749.html


RE: 10 Linux commandments

,----[ Quote ]
|    8. You shall not steal.
|
| Run only free, open-source software. Do not
| go after payware or cracks.
`----

http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/linux-commandments.html

Purported hack brings Linux back to the PS3

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| Sony PlayStation 3 owners who held off on
| updating their systems in order to keep
| from losing the option to install alternate
| operating systems have a new glimmer of
| hope. Hacker George Hotz (a.k.a Geohot) has
| released a video of a new hack that
| promises to keep the alternate OS install
| feature, even with the 3.21 firmware update
| that was released last week.
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http://news.cnet.com/8301-27076_3-20001962-248.html


Sony Deletes Feature On PS3's; You Don't Own What You Thought You Bought

,----[ Quote ]
| It used to be when you bought a product, you
| owned it. Simple, right? And once you owned
| it, you could do what you want with it? But,
| lately, thanks to digital products and an
| always connected world, many companies have
| changed things around -- so the products you
| thought you owned, you actually rent.
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http://techdirt.com/articles/20100331/0128358800.shtml
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