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How to remove Mono from Ubuntu 10.04 Lucid Lynx
http://www.theopensourcerer.com/2010/04/29/how-to-remove-mono-from-ubuntu-10-04-lucid-lynx/
My Theory: What you donât say says a lot
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| Thatâs how I feel about Mono: donât give me
| that shit about Microsoft being selective in
| enforcing ECMA or non-ECMA coverved parts. Or
| that as long I get the software from a pre-
| approved source Iâm covered by a âcovenantâ, as
| long as I am careful to stay within the lines
| of the covenant of course.
|
| The bottom line is you have to be insanse to
| risk large amounts of time and effort that
| Microsoft wonât choose to enforce its âIPâ if
| your project competes with them. No sane
| developer would voluntarily add risk to an
| already risky proposition if they can at all
| avoid it.
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http://www.the-source.com/2010/04/my-theory-what-you-dont-say-says-a-lot/
Recent:
Linux Desktop Evolves with GNOME 2.30
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| Not all Linux distributions that use GNOME
| choose to include the application, however.
| Fedora Linux, for example, has moved to the
| gNote application as a substitute for Tomboy.
| Tomboy relies on the Novell-led Mono effort,
| which provides .NET functionality on Linux,
| but which has raised eyebrows of some in the
| Linux community due to its connection to
| Microsoft technology and intellectual
| property.
|
| "The Tomboy and gNote projects are different
| teams," Peters said. "Tomboy is also working
| on Tomboy Online, which will be a Web service
| capable of hosting your notes so you can
| access them from multiple locations."
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http://www.linuxplanet.com/linuxplanet/reports/7027/1/
Microsoft has shot .NET ecosystem in foot: De Icaza
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| Microsoft has shot the .NET ecosystem in
| the foot because of the constant threat of
| patent infringement that it has cast on the
| system, Novell vice-president and Microsoft
| MVP, Miguel de Icaza, is quoted as telling
| the website, Software Development Times,
| recently.
|
| Strangely, however, the article, headlined
| "Does Windows cost Microsoft
| opportunities", which contains these
| quotes, written by one of SD Times senior
| editors, David Worthington, has disappeared
| off the site. It shows up in a search but
| only yields a 404 when one clicks on the
| link that comes up in the search.
|
| The disappearance of this article was first
| spotted by Jason, who runs the the-
| source.com website.
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http://www.itwire.com/opinion-and-analysis/open-sauce/37880-microsoft-has-shot-net-ecosystem-in-foot-de-icaza
De Icaza Says Microsoft Has Shot .NET Ecosystem In Foot
http://yro.slashdot.org/story/10/03/25/1331255/De-Icaza-Says-Microsoft-Has-Shot-NET-Ecosystem-In-Foot
The Disappearing Article Mystery
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| I know this will startle the Gentle Reader,
| but I actually try to check and verify
| stuff. Itâs how I pretend I have integrity.
|
| So I plugged the quote into Google and
| found a few references, all of which linked
| the SD Times article âDoes Windows cost
| Microsoft opportunites?â allegedly by David
| Worthington.
|
| Oh â donât bother with that last link. Itâs
| a 404. The article isnât in the list of
| articles by the author David Worthington as
| listed on the SD Times site either.
|
| Google cache has it though. It certainly
| appears like the story was out there, and
| was on SD Times, and contained the alleged
| quotes from Mr. de Icaza.
|
| The Question(s)
|
| Why is this article no longer up on SD
| Times?
|
| Are all the quotes attributed to Mr. de
| Icaza in the article genuine? (If they are
| I have more to say about some of them!)
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http://www.the-source.com/2010/03/the-disappearing-article-mystery/
Daily Dose - De Icaza Interview About .Net Taken Down
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| In an article titled "Does Windows cost
| Microsoft opportunities" by the SD Times,
| Novell VP and Mono Project lead Miguel de
| Icaza had some strong opinions about
| Microsoft's handling of the .NET platform.
| For reasons unknown, the article has been
| taken down but is still available on
| Google's cache. Here were some of the
| criticisms de Icaza had: "Unlike the Java
| world that is blossoming with dozens of
| vibrant Java Virtual Machine
| implementations, the .NET world has
| suffered by this meme spread by [Microsoft
| CEO Steve Ballmer] that they would come
| after people that do not license patents
| from them. Microsoft has shot the .NET
| ecosystem in the foot because of the
| constant threat of patent infringement that
| it has cast on the system."
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http://news.dzone.com/dose/dzone-daily-dose-326
SHOCKING: de Icaza likes oData
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| Mr. de Icaza continues to fawn over /
| promote Microsoft technologies. I find it
| amusing and revealing at the same time that
| his infatuation isnât simply with COM or C#
| or .NET or Silverlight, but has over time
| come to be more and more fanboy-like.
|
| I donât recall any big blogs or tweets from
| Mr. de Icaza about gData â but Iâm sure I
| just missed them. But when it comes to
| Microsoftâs .NET-based knock-off, well then
| boy howdy thatâs an exciting topic for Team
| Mono!
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http://www.the-source.com/2010/03/shocking-de-icaza-like-odata/
Of Mono, apologists, and missing the news for the spin
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| But what is extremely interesting about
| this whole episode is the way that Bruce
| Byfield, a self-described computer
| journalist, has gotten involved and tried
| to make out that there was nothing
| newsworthy about De Icaza's comments.
|
| Byfield attempted to turn the focus on the
| fact that Melton and others had questioned
| the disappearance of the March 17 article.
| He lumped a link to my iTWire piece in a
| portion of his article which had a sub-
| heading "The Rumor Mill Grinds Coarsely" -
| though everything reported in my piece was
| strictly factual - and, for good measure,
| also took aim at Roy Schestowitz who runs
| the BoycottNovell website. There is some
| history between Byfield and Schestowitz.
|
| In other words, Melton, I and Schestowitz
| comprised the rumour mill. The oracle of
| truth was apparently Byfield.
|
| [...]
|
| De Icaza begins the March 25 blog post by
| saying "It seems that David's article on
| Windows strategy tax on .NET lacked enough
| context for my actual quotes in there."
| But, as Melton, who, in truth, shows more
| of an analytical mind than both Byfield and
| De Icaza combined, points out, De Icaza had
| already congratulated Worthington on the
| article, posting a tweet: "@dcworthington I
| am in whole agreement with you there; Btw I
| loved the article, good balance."
|
| Let me echo Melton, who, in a long analysis
| of the episode, asked: "So did the article
| lack enough context or was it a good
| balance?" It surely can't be both!
|
| Byfield, of course, did not bother about
| minor contradictions like this. He was on a
| path to uncover the "The Mono Mystery That
| Wasn't" - that's the headline for his
| article, which makes it appear to be some
| kind of fairytale, as indeed it turns out
| to be.
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http://www.itwire.com/opinion-and-analysis/open-sauce/37921-of-mono-apologists-and-missing-the-news-for-the-spin
How Mono apologists drive developers away
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| When Hubert Figuiere, a developer who had
| lost his job with Novell in the first
| quarter of 2009, released the note-taking
| application Gnote on April 1 last year, one
| doubts that he had any idea about the kind
| of attacks which would be launched on him
| by Mono advocates and apologists.
|
| [...]
|
| Figuiere's sin? Gnote is a port of the
| note-taking application Tomboy, which is
| written in Mono and is an official part of
| the GNOME Desktop. Gnote is a port of the
| same code in C++/GTK.
|
| Mono, for those who are unaware, is an
| attempt by Miguel de Icaza, co-founder of
| the GNOME desktop project and a vice-
| president at Novell, to create an open
| source implementation of Microsoft's .NET
| development environment. Mono has attracted
| a fair share of controversy as many in FOSS
| circles fear that it may pose patent
| problems.
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http://www.itwire.com/opinion-and-analysis/open-sauce/38015-how-mono-apologists-drive-developers-away
Telling it like it is, the Allison way
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| He's the man with a conscience in the computer
| industry. Not too many of them around these
| days, an era when people attach the name "open
| source" to anything in a bid to attract funding.
|
| Never mind if the business in question is really
| not gving away source code.
|
| Jeremy Allison caused a stir in 2006 when he
| announced that he was leaving Novell because the
| company had signed a patent indemnification deal
| with Microsoft.
|
| One could well argue that someone with his
| reputation could easily do this, as he wouldn't
| have had a problem finding a job anywhere.
|
| But then, just tell those who raise this
| argument that a couple of gentlemen by the names
| of Miguel de Icaza and Nat Friedman stayed
| behind at Novell when Allison left and see how
| quickly silence prevails.
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http://www.itwire.com/content/view/30671/1090/
Mono and Samba: smell the difference, says Allison
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| It may be recalled that Allison quit Novell in disgust
| soon after the company signed a patent indemnification
| deal with Microsoft in November 2006.
|
| [...]
|
| "Miguel's employer, Novell, has a patent agreement
| with Microsoft that exempts Mono users from Microsoft
| patent aggression, so long as you get Mono from
| Novell. Miguel takes pains to point this out," Allison
| wrote.
|
| As far as Mono goes, De Icaza has implemented parts of
| it which are not covered by the specifications
| submitted to the standards body ECMA by Microsoft; the
| parts submitted are said to be available on royalty-
| free terms and without fear of patent violations.
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http://www.itwire.com/content/view/28570/1090/
Consequences (If You Wait Long Enough)
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| Monomania
| Jeremy Allison argues that Mono is dangerous
| to free software distributions and should be
| relegated to the "restricted" repositories
| along with other software with unsafe
| licensing and/or patent contexts. He makes
| rational arguments, avoids emotion and thus
| when he is inevitably dismissed with a hand-
| wave by the Monomaniacs like the rest of us it
| will be especially telling.
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http://blogs.sun.com/webmink/entry/links_for_2009_10_16
Mono a mano - Many of us are wrestling with this, I suspect
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| Allison's contention is that while he can
| understand original Mono creator Miguel de
| Icaza's reasons for wanting to code GUI apps
| in C# rather than C or C++, Allison would
| rather that the open-source community turned
| to Java instead in its quest to build out the
| graphical environment. There is some talk
| about, at the time Mono was started, Java not
| being available under a free license, but
| Allison contends that it has more to do with
| potential or real rivalries among developers
| wishing to use Java or Mono/C++, as well as
| control over their respective projects.
|
| [...]
|
| On the other hand, seeing Mono as the "Miguel
| de Icaza-who-works-for-Novell Show," keeping
| in mind that I know little about him and have
| never met him, doesn't give me a good feeling
| about how GNOME is tipping every more closely
| into becoming a Mono-powered world.
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http://www.insidesocal.com/click/2009/10/mono-a-mano---many-of-us-are-w.html
Monomania
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| But the problem is that Mono is dangerous for
| Free Software. The heart of the matter is, as
| usual, software patents. Microsoft have patents
| on the technology inside .NET, and since the
| Tom Tom lawsuit, Microsoft have shown they are
| not averse to attacking Free Software using
| patent infringement claims. Microsoft have
| tried to allay some fears by putting the .NET
| specification under their "Microsoft Community
| Promise" which you can read here:
|
| http://www.microsoft.com/interop/cp/default.mspx
|
| Miguel hailed this a the solution to all the
| patent problems with Mono. But this promise is
| simply not good enough to base a language
| environment implementation upon. After all, if
| the rug is pulled out from under that
| implementation by the threat of patent
| infringement you don't just lose the
| implementation itself, you lose all the
| programs that depend upon it. That's a really
| dangerous situation for Free Software programs
| to be in. The Free Software Foundation wrote a
| good analysis of the problems with this promise
| here:
|
| http://www.fsf.org/news/2009-07-mscp-mono
|
| But my basic issue with the Microsoft Community
| Promise is that Miguel doesn't have to depend
| on it like everyone else does. Miguel's
| employer, Novell, has a patent agreement with
| Microsoft that exempts Mono users from
| Microsoft patent aggression, so long as you get
| Mono from Novell.
|
| [...]
|
| Microsoft isn't playing games any more by
| merely threatening to assert patents. Real
| lawsuits have now occurred and the gloves are
| off against Free Software. Moving Mono and its
| applications to the "restricted" repositories
| is now just plain common sense.
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http://tuxdeluxe.org/node/299
Mono is a trap â evidence
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| Still arenât convinced that Mono is a trap
| which ultimately only benefits Microsoft?
|
| Take a look at this âHighly Confidentialâ
| document from Microsoft (from Comes vs
| Microsoft case) entitled âEffective Evangelismâ
| and decide for yourself. It exposes Microsoftâs
| game plan for dominating the market with their
| platforms (which we already know, but some
| choose to ignore).
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http://blog.christophersmart.com/2009/10/15/mono-is-a-trap-evidence/
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