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[News] Analysis of Google's New Push for Free Codecs, Silver Lie and Flash Suffer Already

  • Subject: [News] Analysis of Google's New Push for Free Codecs, Silver Lie and Flash Suffer Already
  • From: Roy Schestowitz <newsgroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 21 May 2010 09:36:15 +0100
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The first in-depth technical analysis of VP8

,----[ Quote ]
| VP8, as a spec, should be a bit better 
| than H.264 Baseline Profile and VC-1.  
| Itâs not even close to competitive with 
| H.264 Main or High Profile.  If Google is 
| willing to revise the spec, this can 
| probably be improved.
| 
| VP8, as an encoder, is somewhere between 
| Xvid and Microsoftâs VC-1 in terms of 
| visual quality.  This can definitely be 
| improved a lot, but not via conventional 
| means.
| 
| VP8, as a decoder, decodes even slower 
| than ffmpegâs H.264.  This probably canât 
| be improved that much.
`----

http://x264dev.multimedia.cx/?p=377

Why Google bought Global IP Solutions

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/open-source/why-google-bought-global-ip-solutions/6501

Microsoft to support VP8 video codec with Internet Explorer 9, after all?

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/microsoft/microsoft-to-support-vp8-video-codec-with-internet-explorer-9-after-all/6264

Zencoder Excited About Open Source VP8

http://newteevee.com/2010/05/18/zencoder-excited-about-open-source-vp8/

Openness

,----[ Quote ]
| Googleâs new codec could become the lingua 
| franca of video on the web. From there it 
| could influence all manner of gadgets 
| connected to the web and render the 
| polyglot of codecs antiquated. I would not 
| be surprised if it became popular on CDs 
| as well. What conserves bandwidth on the 
| web can also save space on hard drives and 
| CDs.
`----

http://pogson.6k.ca/2010/05/19/openness/

Google video effort to be dubbed WebM Project?

http://news.cnet.com/8301-30685_3-20005350-264.html

Mozilla and company announce WebM, VP8-based open video format project

http://mozillalinks.org/wp/2010/05/mozilla-and-company-announce-webm-vp8-based-open-video-format-project/

Google open source VP8 as part of the WebM Project

http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Google-open-source-VP8-as-part-of-the-WebM-Project-1003772.html

Google Makes VP8 Open Source - Now It Needs To Get A Little Evil 

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/g/a/2010/05/19/businessinsider-google-needs-to-get-a-little-evil-2010-5.DTL

Google Launches Open Source Video Format âWebMâ

http://trueslant.com/charlesjohnson/2010/05/19/google-launches-open-source-video-format-webm/

Details on Google's Chrome Store and WebM plans

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/fasterforward/2010/05/details_on_googles_chrome_stor_2.html

VP8 Video Codec Opened. Now What?

http://www.montanalinux.org/vp8-now-what.html

Publishing Video in 2010

http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/201x/2010/05/15/Video-Publishing

Google Gives Web $120 Million Gift 

http://www.informationweek.com/news/software/open_source/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=224900400&cid=RSSfeed_IWK_All

Google open sources $124.6m video codec

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/05/19/google_chrome_announcement/

WebM's royalty-free HTML5 video raises patent issues

http://www.electronista.com/articles/10/05/19/google.mozilla.opera.may.be.in.trouble.with.webm/

Flash Co-creator: Apple Is Destroying the Open Web

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| However, Gay is skeptical that Googleâs 
| plans to open-source its VP8 video codec 
| will be able to fundamentally change this 
| situation, cautioning that it may be 
| impossible to build open-source codecs 
| that donât infringe on someoneâs patents.
`----

http://newteevee.com/2010/05/18/flash-co-creator-apple-is-destroying-the-open-web/?utm_source=newteevee&utm_medium=recent-posts

Theora Founder: WebM Project is âWonderfulâ

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| âThis is great news,â said Christopher 
| âMontyâ Montgomery, founder of the 
| Xiph.org Foundation, when I reached him by 
| phone right after the announcement. 
| Montgomery is spearheading the development 
| of Ogg Theora and is a Theora developer 
| himself, but he called VP8 going open 
| source âabsolutely wonderfulâ and sounded 
| honestly stoked about the initiative. 
| Montgomery did mention that Google didnât 
| make too much of an effort to reach out to 
| open source developers ahead of the 
| official announcement. He was notified of 
| the development, but many others werenât. 
| âWe have to see how itâs going to play out 
| in the open source community,â he told me, 
| adding that it will be a while until VP8 
| will really have an impact.
`----

http://newteevee.com/2010/05/19/theora-founder-webm-project-is-wonderful/

Google backs open codec against patent trolls

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| Google is "very confident" that the newly 
| open-sourced VP8 video codec will stand up 
| to the sort of patent attack Steve Jobs 
| warned of when he defended Apple's 
| decision to shun VP8's predecessor, the 
| open-source Ogg Theora.
| 
| [...]
| 
| In a private email, Apple chief executive 
| Steve Jobs even went so far as to say that 
| unnamed forces were putting together a 
| patent pool to "go after" Ogg Theora. 
| Today, when The Reg asked if VP8 was 
| vulnerable to patent attack, Google 
| product manager Mike Jazayeri indicated 
| this isn't a big concern for the company.
| 
| "We have done a pretty through analysis of 
| VP8 and On2 Technologies prior to the 
| acquisition and since then, and we are 
| very confident with the technology and 
| that's why we're open sourcing," he said.
`----

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/05/20/google_confident_on_vp8_and_patents/

Chip makers back Google's open source codec

,----[ Quote ]
| A handful of mobile chip makers--including 
| ARM, MIPS, Nvidia and Texas Instruments--
| said they will support Google's move to 
| establish V8, a video codec it acquired 
| with On2 Technologies in August.
| 
| Google announced at its annual Google I/O 
| event in San Francisco it will make the V8 
| codec available as open source code with a 
| royalty free license as part of a new WebM 
| project. Google said it will pair V8 with 
| the Vorbis open source audio codec and 
| support the two in its Chrome browser and 
| YouTube service. Browser makers Mozilla 
| and Opera also said they will support the 
| codecs. 
`----

http://www.eetimes.com/news/semi/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=224900395

Dev goes 'Wild' with H.264 Firefox

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/05/18/wild_fox_adds_h_dot_264_to_firefox/

Netflix Is The Latest To Talk The HTML5 Talk

,----[ Quote ]
| As we all know, the battle between Flash 
| and HTML5 for the future of online video 
| is raging. But what about that other 
| plugin some sites use for video? You know, 
| the one made by Microsoft â Silverlight? A 
| new posting tonight may call that 
| platformâs future in video into question 
| as well. Because arguably their most 
| important client is looking to jump on the 
| HTML5 video bandwagon: Netflix.
`----

http://techcrunch.com/2010/05/19/netflix-html5/

HTML5 Vs. Flash. What You Havenât Heard.

http://thenextweb.com/apple/2010/05/14/html5-vs-flash-what-you-havent-heard/
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