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> Roy Schestowitz stated in post 1729078.OHGUjKiObB@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx on 7/1/11
> 4:04 PM:
>
> ...
>>>>>>> The hostility is not, as far as I know, toward people having beliefs -
>>>>>>> it is in pushing those irrational beliefs into public schools and the
>>>>>>> like.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, you beat me to it. And many such people do so for their own agenda,
>>>>>> which in many cases leads to the kids' remorse when they mature.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Pretty much comes down to the idea that if you want to believe the world
>>>>> is the back of a turtle, that is fine with me... but do not teach that to
>>>>> *my*
>>>>> kids as "truth". I have no problem with the teaching of different
>>>>> creation myths in schools, and that would include the creationist myth as
>>>>> well as many others.
>>>>>
>>>>> To present the basic ideas of evolution as anything other than well
>>>>> established and supported by the evidence is irresponsible; there is no
>>>>> excuse to claim any mythologies are on equal footing.
>>>>>
>>>> People are led to believe that teachers have a lot of power to just tell
>>>> children what to think, but they are actually strictly tied to a curriculum
>>>> (if not, they get fired), just as judges are tied to loads of laws and
>>>> caselaws, so they don't have any power to just make arbitrary decisions,
>>>> not even with the jury, not to mention appeals. So to teachers and
>>>> lecturers these issues matter a lot. They can become lying robots (lying to
>>>> themselves and the kids) because of such lobbyists that set in stone
>>>> curricula.
>>>>
>>> Absolutely - though they, like judges, are given a fair bit of leeway in the
>>> details of how they present the information, what the focus on, etc.
>>>
>> Yes, but if they are seen as acting out of spite they can lose their job/get
>> demoted and they know it.
>
> Absolutely.
>
>> They may pretend to have a lot of power, but they are very much tied to the
>> laws (which change very slowly) and the cases take ages to complete, at the
>> expense of the plaintiff and defendant (think second mortgage for this staged
>> process with lawyers as the cast).
>
> It also depends on the state, the district and even the administration of
> the school. Some are a lot more lenient than others.
In these economic times teachers are reluctant to complain.
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~~ Best of wishes
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