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> Roy Schestowitz wrote:
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>>> I know I am going to regret this, but having been brought up as a devout
>>> Lutheran, earning a degree in structural engineering, I just can't
>>> quantify this concept......
>>>
>>> Do I believe God created the universe in a 7 day stretch?
>>> Nope.
>>> The dinosaurs and evidence of evolution, carbon dating etc are proof
>>> this is not the case.
>>> Either God fucked up or there is more to the story.
>>>
>>> Yet, do I discredit the Bible?
>>> Nope again.
>>> Because much of the Bible has been proven, scientifically.
>>> Not all...Not by a longshot...but a decent amount.
>>> I can't swallow Jonah and the whale.
>>> Nor do I believe Noah had every flea on the ark, yet archeology shows us
>>> the flood DID occur...
>>> Soddam and Gomohrra have been found, so they say.
>>> Go figure.
>>>
>>> So my question is, where did the first one come from?
>>> Assuming the big bang.
>>> Evolution.
>>> Etc.
>>>
>>> Where did "whatever" that started it all come from?
>>>
>>> Basic science tells us matter cannot be created nor destroyed it just
>>> changes state, so where did the inital matter come from?
>>>
>>> Sounds like God, or some supreme being to me.......
>>
>> And where did God (or supreme being) come from? Who created God? You could
>> save a spurious step of complexity.
>
> God, supreme being has always existed.
> That's why he is God :)
>
> You see, science can't explain where the first one came from.
> The only solution is a supreme being.
> Call it God, call it alien, call it whatever.
But who created this thing? Surely it would have to be ever more complex than this
thing that set the universe in motion.
> I believe there is a reason for this madness.
>
> I just can't believe that all the order, the extreme order, in the
> universe, the planets, our earth, "just happend" per chance.
It's a probability thing. Your sample set is 1, one where you know life exists because you are
there as alibi. If we know a second planet that has life, only then will probability theory apply.
> Move a planet a few miles out of it's normal oribit and all hell breaks
> loose in the solar system. Earth would die....
That's because we evolved to be optimised to the conditions we live in. If anything, this does
validate evolution.
> Why does a spider eat ants?
> Why do ant's cultivate the soil?
> Why is a hummingbird shaped perfectly as to hum.
> and so froth.
It's the equilibrium that came about, over a very long time. The Earth is about 4 billion years old. The universe --
about 16. You can easily measure these things using a variety of methods.
> It's jsut too perfect.....
> Science can't explain this.
It already has actually, one just need to find the textbooks about it.
> There is more behind it than amebos crawling out of the water....
>
> Take archaeology for example...
> Where are the missing links?
Many 'missing' links and transitional fossils do exist. They are in museums, too.
> Suppose, God forbid, you died of Encephalitis and they dug you up 2000
> years from now.
> Are you representitive of the populous at large?
> Of course not.
> Yet the scholars would deem you a missing link....
Huh? Not hinged on fact.
> Science is great no doubt but science does not have all the answers, at
> least not yet.
It is always improving, not getting worse. Religious explanations are medieval or worse. These
go back to the days when a bacterium was not known about and diseases were associated with curses
and such utter superstitions.
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