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> Roy Schestowitz stated in post 6437688.NyiUUSuA9g@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx on 7/6/11
> 12:40 PM:
>
> ...
>>> On 07/06/2011 06:23 PM, Roy Schestowitz wrote:
>>>> One who is a teacher should know that Apple is the antithesis of education.
>>>> It's where learning stops, buttons get removed, everyone everywhere is
>>>> assimilated to one Unified Way, and merits of alternative routes are
>>>> actively suppressed.
>>>>
>>>> It's deeply shocking that people who promote toys are allowed to impose
>>>> consumerism on young people whose goal is to make progress, not make
>>>> lawsuits and lies the way Apple does.
>>>>
>>> It does not matter what I think about Apple, but...
>>>
>>> First I honor Steve Jobs a lot. He is genius. His IQ must be 300... He is
>>> both technical and business man.
>>>
>> Why did the company almost go bankrupt when he was there earlier?
>>
> You mean when he was not there? In any case, he clearly has learned a lot
> from his early years.
>
>>> I hope he pulls through whatever he going through now. Any news?
>>>
>>> On the weekend I was watching videos of Apple & Steve on YouTube.
>>> They are very informative. I think FOSS people could learn few things
>>> from Apple and Steve.
>>
>> OK, be specific. And it's not all about money, it's about engineering.
>
> Some comments from Shuttleworth come to mind:
>
> Mark Shuttleworth:
> -----
> The fact that OS X is growing, tells us that Windows is
> weakening. The fact that OS X is growing and Linux isn't,
> tells you that OS X is offering things that Linux is not.
> One of those is the pace of change, the level of innovation.
> You really have to give credit to Apple for driving
> innovation.
> -----
> But if you are somebody who is not too concerned about price,
> who is not too concerned about freedom, I don't think we can
> say the Linux desktop offers the very best experience. And
> that's something we have to change, that's something I'm
> committed to work on, focusing increasing amounts of
> resources of Canonical on figuring out on how we actually
> move the desktop experience forward to compete with Mac OS X.
> -----
>
> As Shuttleworth understands, Apple does many things very well - better than
> pretty much anyone else in the industry.
>
>>> One thing I spotted in them would be to concentrate on some market
>>> segment and take that - not trying to be everything for everybody, which
>>> does not work. So a segment at a time FOSS could win.
>>> One of the videos Steve told that the rough patch Apple was going
>>> through back in time was because they were developing zillions of things
>>> at the same time. Other one was that success doesn't follow by first
>>> developing something cool and then trying to figure out how to sell it.
>>> It starts when you know the customer's need and fill it.
>>
>> That's not a very technology-oriented approach though, is it?
>
> Exactly: it is a *customer* and *use-case* oriented approach. Sure, Apple
> focuses on technology, but really they are in business to make good products
> - not to push technology.
>
>>> On the other hand my suspicion for Apple are deeply rooted.
>>>
>>> 1a. It is proprietary.
>>> 1b. Microsoft financed them back few years so that they won't go out of
>>> business.
>>> 2. Steve don't want to compete with MS head on - which might be wise.
>>> 3. Steve took whole BSD kernel for free and Apple does not exactly give
>>> much back. Or if someone knows otherwise please tell.
>>> 4. newest is this Nortel patent deal. Consortium includes both Microsoft
>>> and Apple....
>>>
>>> I plan to learn iOS when I have time....probably somewhere round
>>> 2020.... maybe it solves itself automatically iOS or I might be dead...
>>
>> iOS -- like iDevices -- is a monopoly.
>
> Not at all. Heck, as is often noted in COLA, Android has a higher market
> share at this point than does iOS. Do you call Android a "monopoly", or
> only an OS with a lower share?
Android is a collection of packages and a shop.
>> Had Apple licensed it, there would arguably be no Android. Apple is repeating
>> its mistakes from the 80s/90s.
>
> Why would Apple want to license iOS? Why would they want to license OS X?
> Do not get me wrong, they might license OS X at some point, at least for
> virtualization, but their strategy of making the best *complete* product has
> served them and their customers very well. I would not want that to be
> diminished by such a radical change in their direction.
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~~ Best of wishes
Dr. Roy S. Schestowitz (Ph.D. Medical Biophysics), Imaging Researcher
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