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Re: Vegan Bodybuilders??

  • Subject: Re: Vegan Bodybuilders??
  • From: Robert Schuh <rschuh@yahoo.com>
  • Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 13:36:34 -0700
  • Newsgroups: alt.fitness.weights, misc.fitness.weights, sci.med.nutrition
  • Organization: Hard Bop Drums
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Roy Schestowitz wrote:

> NoOption5L@aol.com wrote:
>
> > Will Brink wrote:
> >
> >> > Will, I'd like to think you're smart, but since you never seem to
> > post
> >> > *any* counter information, you're only proving that you're nothing
> > but
> >> > a smart ass.
> >
> >> I post counter info to those that can understand it.
> >
> > Try me.
> >
> >> I don't waste time trying to correct every human being on the planet.
> >
> >
> > Yet, you waste time whipping up smart-ass comments/replies.  I mean if
> > you're going to take the time to comment post something relevent.
> >
> >> Your comments so far have shown you lack the science base to
> > understand the
> >> details and prefer what you have read in USA Today or seen on TV.
> >
> > I don't read USA Today and I watch very little television.
> > (Television, to me, is a waste of time.)
> >
> >> Your Alzdo comments are proof of that.
> >
> > My only comments were, 'or die by their use', and "it's a sad story".
> > I let the webpage, with its direct quotes from Lyle, speak for itself.
> > Lyle's testimony is relevent/valid since he was a long-term user of
> > steroids, and likely died from that use.
> >
> >> Now, if you want something to read as a response to your comments,
> > see:
> >
> > Since this is a newsgroup where people typically exchange
> > ideas/opinions, how 'bout giving us yours?  What are your thoughts on
> > steroid use?
> >
> >>  Street. C., Antonio A., and Cudlipp, D. "Androgen Use by Athletes: A
> >
> >> Reevaluation of the Health Risks." Can. J. Appl. Phys. 21(6):
> > 421-440.
> >> 1996.
> >
> > Do you have/know of any links?
> >
> >> This is probably the most unbiased and accurate review on the topic
> > so
> >> far.
> >
> > The most accurate review will come in when many of today's athletes
> > start to get up in age.  And any drugs that is as powerful as steroids
> > have to have damaging side affects.  You can't fool Mother Nature that
> > much.
> >
> > There's no question steroids work.  However, in my eyes, today's
> > rampant use of steroids does not validate their safety.  Rather it only
> > highlights the fierce competitive nature of our sports industry.  Our
> > athletes are, in a sense, forced to use steroids.  Natural "A"
> > athletes can't risk steroid-using  "B" athletes outperforming
> > them and taking their position/money/fame.  "B" athletes can't
> > afford to not use steroids and lose their "A" game.  The "C"
> > and "D" athletes are hoping steroid use will at least put them on
> > the bench.   No athlete wants to admit using steroids for fear of
> > losing any [potential] lucrative advertisement contracts.  And
> > coaches/team owners are afraid the drop off of broken records will
> > reduce the number of fans watching.  So steroid use continues to grow.
> > But many will find out later in life that their fortune and fame
> > can't buy back their health.
> >
> > Patrick
>
> Let's cut this thread, Patrick. It is going nowhere. Knowing what we know
> today, Will made a choice and if he doesn't listen, there is no point in
> anyone preaching.
>
> By the way, you articulated your words on the subject very well.
>
> Roy
>
> --
> Roy S. Schestowitz
> http://Schestowitz.com

Dearest Roy,
I am still waiting for the list of all the people who have died before their
40th birthday from using anabolic steroids.


--
Robert Schuh
"Everything that elevates an individual above the herd and
 intimidates the neighbour is henceforth called evil; and
 the fair, modest, submissive and conforming mentality,
 the mediocrity of desires attains moral designations and honors"
 - Nietzsche



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