On Thu, 15 Jun 2006 02:50:20 +0000, Rick wrote:
> On Wed, 14 Jun 2006 20:39:12 -0500, flatfish+++ wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 15 Jun 2006 01:03:13 +0100, Roy Schestowitz wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Best wishes,
>>>
>>> Roy
>>
>> Have you gotten permission from the author to use those images on your
>> website?
>>
>> Or....
>>
>> Have you taken them down?
>
> Why do you care?
I could have the wrong poster in mind here, but wasn't it flatfish who
once admitted to pirating something?
Hmmm... off we go to Google....
Here's a message form Peter Kohlman, June 3, 2002:
"And when you are at it, prove that you did not pirate software from
Mandrake and MS (WinXP)."
Close, but no cigar.
Here's one from Jerry Nash, June 3, 2002:
Flatfish kept the illegal, stolen XP license obtained from
a "friend":
See message-id: <slrnaeaqjp.hd.mjcr@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Now we're getting somewhere. That message ID leads me to:
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/62627a792e7ea054?hl=en
This was posted by mcjr on May 17,2002. Apparently Flatfish had claimed
somewhere else that "One of my clients added me to his corporate license
because that is his firms OS of choice. I have a completely legal and
free, at least to me, copy." The software at issue would appear to be
Windows XP, and (having to read between some lines on various
messages here) someone claimed that Flatfish installed it on his own
personal system, not a company system as required by the corporate EULA.
Flatfish claims it was a company system and he never said otherwise.
Someone else says he's changed his story. I can't find his original
message without more effort than it's worth, so who knows?
part of mcjr's response:
"If it was legal, then that was your employer not your client. It would
be legal only when you are using the software so provided for the needs of
that employer. If that was really a client, both of you are now libel for
software piracy."
A search for the obvious keywords turns up many vindictive threads on
this topic but no new info. Also FWIW he discusses this a bit with DFS in
a May 3rd thread entitled "OT: I'll take it off his hands".
Ok, now lets pursue the Mandrake thing. Typing in "Flatfish Pirate
Mandrake" yields all kinds of interesting discussions, but this one will
do. I found a message where Peter Kohlmann had quoted Flatfish,
including providing the message ID, but I can't find the message ID
on Google. Possibly X-No-Archived by Flatfish?
Anyway, here's the full message that was quoted by someone. I
forgot to grab the message ID but it shouldn't be too hard to find
using one of the strings in the message:
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From: flatfish...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: A typical example of why linux is a PITA Reply-To:
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On Wed, 28 Aug 2002 15:41:51 -0400, "rapskat" <raps...@xxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
>Error Log for Wed, 28 Aug 2002 10:42:17 +0000: segfault in module
>"flatfish++" - dump details are as follows...
>> How can you steal something that is free?
>By purchasing it, copying it, distributing it to your buddies, then
>returning it to the store for a refund.
I admitted doing that with Mandrake 7.x a long time ago.
It was wrong, I admitted it, but nothing was lost because none of the
4 people kept it on their systems long enough.
My intention from the start was not to do that, it just kind of
happened because that version of MD was terrible and I decided to see
what would happen if I tried to return it.
Unfortunately, it was after I gave away 4 or 5 copies for people to
try and I didn't give it much thought.
I was really surprised that they took it back, no questions asked and
that was my focus at the time.
I'll bet I have more boxed versions of various Linux distros than most
people in this group so Linux in general has made a lot of money from
me over the years.
More so than Billy Gates has in fact.
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Looks like broiled flounder for dinner. :o)
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