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Re: [News] Has Microsoft Given Up on Windows? No Patches At All for 0-Day Vulnerabilities!

  • Subject: Re: [News] Has Microsoft Given Up on Windows? No Patches At All for 0-Day Vulnerabilities!
  • From: Jim Richardson <warlock@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2007 19:19:02 -0800
  • Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy
  • Organization: Erisian claw
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On Sat, 10 Mar 2007 07:26:21 -0600,
 Linonut <linonut@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
> After takin' a swig o' grog, Roy Schestowitz belched out this bit o' wisdom:
>
>> __/ [ Linonut ] on Saturday 10 March 2007 04:51 \__
>>
>>> After takin' a swig o' grog, Jerry McBride belched out this bit o' wisdom:
>>> 
>>> Or they may simply ask themselves, "How many boxes does 'patch Tuesday'
>>> sell?"
>>
>> It's no joke. They have begun charging for patches....
>>
>> ,----[ Quote ]
>> | For users running that software, Microsoft charges $4,000 per product
>> | for DST fixes. 
>> `----
>>
>> http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,129550-c,industrynews/article.html
>>
>> I refer you back to the quote in the OP. That's why vendor dependecies are
>> nasty. You let yourself be abused.
>
> I saw some time-related patches going by when I did a world-update on my
> Debian box.
>
> But now I'm having to restart the ntp daemon manually (well, for now it
> is in my .xsession file) after I log in.
>
> I'm not sure what is up with that!
>
> Anyway, from the article you reference:
>
>    The $4,000 fee is a dramatic price cut from the $40,000-per-product
>    charge that Microsoft set in 2006. "We believe we had to do the right
>    thing for our customers, so we did something on the fee," explained
>    Sweatt. "There is a cost involved in producing this, but we're not
>    making money on [the $4,000]. It recovers just a part of the cost of
>    development and providing support."
>
>  Didn't Bill "bit-rot" Gates once claim that nobody ever bought a
>  product for bug fixes?
>
>  And people wonder why some despise Microsoft, the company.
>



*40,000* dollars?!?

We have a rather elderly server running RH8, (don't ask, it's going
away, shiney new CentOS box replacing it this week ) for which there was
no DST patch (or rather, no new version of the tzdata rpm) since the
more recent ones required a version of glibc that was well beyond what
RH shipped with 8. No problem, donwload the tz data file, and compile
the zoneinfo, copy the file over, done. 

Is MS-Windows so poorly designed that this is a problem? 

I had heard that the OS,a nd Outlook have different sources for the
Zoneinfo requiring different patches, is this true? if so, I mean WTF? 


Every day makes me even happier that I rarely have to deal with MS
Windows. 

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Jim Richardson     http://www.eskimo.com/~warlock
Fornication, n.:
        Term used by people who don't have anybody to screw with.

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