In article <2329871.H1QzTKmg6k@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
Roy Schestowitz <newsgroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> ____/ Chris Ahlstrom on Saturday 17 January 2009 01:47 : \____
> > After takin' a swig o' grog, Doug Mentohl belched out
> > this bit o' wisdom:
> >>
> http://research.microsoft.com/en-us/collaboration/global/europe/apply-europe.a
> spx
> >
> > Uh, Doug, that link mentions nothing like the above.
>
> http://boycottnovell.com/2009/01/11/microsoft-dislikes-foss-academia/
Note that Roy is not actually responding to what you said, Chris. He
just spotted some keywords, and attached the appropriate spam. If you
go follow his link and see what it cites for its quote, it is:
> <http://research.microsoft.com/en-us/collaboration/global/europe/apply-europe.aspx>
<http://research.microsoft.com/en-us/collaboration/global/europe/apply-eu
rope.aspx>
Note that it is THE SAME LINK that Daeron posted.
What you are looking for is the terms and conditions link on that page,
which is the link Roy would have given you if he had actually read your
post and tried to be helpful, instead of just using it as a spam
opportunity. Here is the link for you:
> <http://research.microsoft.com/en-us/collaboration/global/europe/phdscholarshipagreement2008.pdf>
<http://research.microsoft.com/en-us/collaboration/global/europe/phdschol
arshipagreement2008.pdf>
The contents matches well with what Daeron quoted, but not so well with
what Roy quotes on his site.
What they both leave out, of course, is that there are many open source
licenses that are acceptable to them, including the BSD license. (Or
have Daeron and Roy decided that the BSD license is not open source?)
Apparently, both Daeron and Roy think that if Microsoft gives someone a
scholarship for up to $43000/year for up to three years to sponsor that
student's specific research proposal, it is unreasonable for Microsoft
to require that software produced from that research be licensed under a
license that doesn't prevent Microsoft from using that research. (The
BSD license is compatible with pretty much every other license, so is a
great choice for research code).
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--Tim Smith
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