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Re: [wp-hackers] Setup fonts might be a tiny bit above average size under some circumstances

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  • Subject: Re: [wp-hackers] Setup fonts might be a tiny bit above average size under some circumstances
  • From: Roy Schestowitz <r@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2005 15:02:54 +0000
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_____/ On Fri 04 Nov 2005 05:01:38 GMT, [Mark Rosenstand] wrote : \_____

Short: The problem is that WordPress uses "font-size: 1.7em;" for the
text fields and buttons.

Long (and rude because of know-all attitude):

Your manners need to improve, I'm afraid. Throughout this conversion it has only
been you who chose to be rude; you do not even deny it. You do us no justice by
re-humanising that "Linux fanatic" stereotype.

Roy Schestowitz cluelessly wrote:
_/ On Thu 03 Nov 2005 23:43:37 GMT, [Mark Rosenstand] wrote :\__

> Hey list,
> I was wondering if you are aware of how ugly the WordPress setup is
> on a default GNOME desktop.
> http://borkware.net/~mark/wp-setup.png
> http://borkware.net/~mark/wp-login.png

Putting aside the fact that "madness" is an overstatement to describe
what I  see above,

Sorry, fixed.

Thanks. It was never a complaint, by the way. Vocal ambiguity perhaps.

it is a matter of which distribution you happen to be using.

Standard fonts are distributed with X.org.


It varies depending on which fonts you happen to have installed.

Not if you test with the standard fonts of the most common operating systems instead of assuming that the entire world uses Microsoft's fonts.

Not many (if any) of the developers are Windows-oriented and/or
Windows-inclined, so that statement is a bit unfair. Not every time layouts
breaks, should Windows be blamed either.

I agree, however, that font sets can always be made more generous.

No need to, the standard ones are both excellent and plenty.

You can never educate an entire world of Web developer. As long as pages with
preferred fonts prevail, there is the need to adapt. Rants lead nowhere.

Have you in- stalled any TrueType fonts packages yet?

$ find /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts -name '*.ttf' |wc -l 22

If not, you are likely to see more of the same in other Web sites.

No, the rest of the web looks great, just like it has done for the past six years. But of course the rest of the web isn't doing this:

	<style type="text/css">
	#log, #pwd, #submit {
		font-size: 1.7em;

Seems fine and elegant to me. Honestly.

I have just tried Ubuntu (GNOME) on a remote host, just as a proof of
con- cept.  It all looked fine to me, i.e. no low-resultion fonts.

Ubuntu isn't a standard.

Why? Because you dislike it? Have I ever said it was a standard?

Catering for each individual distro (they come with different fonts)
is hard. The least you  can  do is download more packages of font.

It must be really hard to be a web developer with all those evil Linux distributions. Oh boy am I glad you are willing to share your deep insight with me. But please don't mind doing so in the future.

How mature. Your later reply (below) shows that your resement is not directed at
me, but merely at anyone. Your choice was to be hostile from the moment you
typed in the subject line.

_____/ On Fri 04 Nov 2005 11:57:42 GMT, [Mark Rosenstand] wrote : \_____

Graeme Lennon wrote:
This is silly.

If your objection was that you don't like the large font-size, that's
cool. It's not an accident. I suggest rephrasing this entire
conversation as:

"I don't like the large text on the buttons."

To which the reply will be:


I thought it was an accident. Actually I still believe it is, as I'm sure the buttons are supposed to fit inside the layout: http://borkware.net/~mark/wp-setup.png

Okay, pair enough. Then again, I guess it is not crucial as setup is not

But if it isn't, then that's cool too :-) I'd like to hear it from
someone actually involved in the project, though.

Thanks for even caring enough to reply to us 'little people'.


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