Thanks Roy, that's good to know. The new function user_can_richedit()
first checks the user option, then looks for known-bad browsers: Konq,
Opera < 9, Safari < 2. If neither of these is present, it returns
If you have any new insight on ways to improve this, let us know!
On 12/7/05, Roy Schestowitz <wp-lowtraffic@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> _____/ On Thu 08 Dec 2005 04:37:56 GMT, [Andy Skelton] wrote : \_____
> > On 12/7/05, Roy Schestowitz <wp-lowtraffic@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> For what it's worth, the same happens in the latest of Opera, in
> >> Konqueror, and
> >> in Netscape 4.8 (no surprise). I installed the latest build (8-12-2005). All
> >> works okay in Mozilla 1.7.
> > For the record, the gzdeflate problem was unrelated to any browser issue.
> > Roy, you seem to have a lot of browsers installed somewhere. I need a
> > good list of browsers that can't use TinyMCE, and their user agent
> > string patterns. I can use it to make WP revert to Quicktags for those
> > browsers, even if they have the rich editor switched on.
> > One browser I'm missing is Netscape. Could you find out the lowest
> > version that works, if any, and the user agent string they use? That
> > would rock.
> I can't imagine that old versions of Netscape will still be available for
> download. Even oldversion.com does not have any. The latest of Netscape,
> however, is a gross re-use of Mozilla Firefox, so should work fine. My
> colleague uses Netscape 7 and it appears to be a close relative of Mozilla,
> which is compatible with TinyMCE. My bet would be that version 6 (or 7) is
> where support was in tact. I have Netscape 5/6 on a Mac, so I could possibly
> You might not like this, but here is the string sent by Netscape:
> Mozilla/4.8 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.20-4GB i686)
> [No 'Netscape' or 'netscape' or 'communicator', so might be safer to
> use WYSIWYG
> if agent is known to work rather than reject if the agent is known /not/ to
> As for the remainder:
> Mozilla:-- Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20040913
> Konqueror:-- Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; Konqueror/3.3; Linux) (KHTML,
> like Gecko)
> Opera:-- Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; X11; Linux i686; en) Opera 8.5
> [Note that Opera still spoof although I read that they had stopped it.
> Opera is
> useful for zealot sites that reject anything that is not Internet Explorer. A
> regex accepting Internet Explorer (MSIE) might trigger issues with Opera]
> Let me know if you need more tests. I can test on Mac OS 9, as well as old
> versions of Windows. If you can put a mock-up page of the Write screen, (which
> is also public) then you could then use http://browsershots.org/ .
> Hope it helps,
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