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Re: [wp-testers] is tiny-mce broken on Camino/Safari or is that my misconfiguration?

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  • Subject: Re: [wp-testers] is tiny-mce broken on Camino/Safari or is that my misconfiguration?
  • From: Roy Schestowitz <wp-lowtraffic@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 08 Dec 2005 05:16:34 +0000
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_____/ On Thu 08 Dec 2005 04:37:56 GMT, [Andy Skelton] wrote : \_____

On 12/7/05, Roy Schestowitz <wp-lowtraffic@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
For what it's worth, the same happens in the latest of Opera, in
Konqueror, and
in Netscape 4.8 (no surprise). I installed the latest build (8-12-2005). All
works okay in Mozilla 1.7.

For the record, the gzdeflate problem was unrelated to any browser issue.

Roy, you seem to have a lot of browsers installed somewhere. I need a
good list of browsers that can't use TinyMCE, and their user agent
string patterns. I can use it to make WP revert to Quicktags for those
browsers, even if they have the rich editor switched on.

One browser I'm missing is Netscape. Could you find out the lowest
version that works, if any, and the user agent string they use? That
would rock.

I can't imagine that old versions of Netscape will still be available for download. Even oldversion.com does not have any. The latest of Netscape, however, is a gross re-use of Mozilla Firefox, so should work fine. My colleague uses Netscape 7 and it appears to be a close relative of Mozilla, which is compatible with TinyMCE. My bet would be that version 6 (or 7) is where support was in tact. I have Netscape 5/6 on a Mac, so I could possibly check.

You might not like this, but here is the string sent by Netscape:

Mozilla/4.8 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.20-4GB i686)

[No 'Netscape' or 'netscape' or 'communicator', so might be safer to use WYSIWYG
if agent is known to work rather than reject if the agent is known /not/ to

As for the remainder:

Mozilla:-- Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20040913

Konqueror:-- Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; Konqueror/3.3; Linux) (KHTML, like Gecko)

Opera:-- Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; X11; Linux i686; en) Opera 8.5

[Note that Opera still spoof although I read that they had stopped it. Opera is
useful for zealot sites that reject anything that is not Internet Explorer. A
regex accepting Internet Explorer (MSIE) might trigger issues with Opera]

Let me know if you need more tests. I can test on Mac OS 9, as well as old
versions of Windows. If you can put a mock-up page of the Write screen, (which
is also public) then you could then use http://browsershots.org/ .

Hope it helps,


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