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Re: Stop with the [News] postings already!!!

  • Subject: Re: Stop with the [News] postings already!!!
  • From: Erik Funkenbusch <erik@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 04:17:18 -0500
  • Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy
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On Thu, 17 Aug 2006 22:51:24 -0500, JEDIDIAH wrote:

> On 2006-08-17, mlw <mlw@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> I know you probably mean well, but it is behaving more like spam than actual
>> advocacy. It is getting in the way of seeing/finding discussions. 
> 
> 	How? They're rediculously well marked. You could just put it 
> in your killfile and never know those messages were there.

There are at least 5 reasons.

1)  The volume of messages are such that unless you're using a news server
with monstrous retention times, it causes newsgroup content to get purged
very quickly.

2) He uses deceptively crafted headlines to imply (and sometimes outright
state) things that the stories themselves don't support.

3) He marks all kinds of content as "news" that isn't such as several year
old Howto's.

4) He publishes so much stuff, he doesn't even realize when he's posting
the same story multiple times.

5) The Signal to noise ratio hasn't gone down, in fact, it's gone up.  This
week there were almost 2700 messages posted to COLA, while 6 months ago
that number was only about 2100.  Even if you discount Roys 300+ message
fest, that's still several hundred more message, most of them noise as
evidenced by the popular threads:

 1: Ubuntu help.................................................... :    81

Largely a vi vs emacs flamefest

 2: ok you trolls - answer this one - how to defrag users PC's..... :    79

no comment needed.

 3: Linux - The Problem is Indifference and Lack of Curiousity?.... :    76

no comment needed

 4: Putting to rest fonts and ugliness............................. :    71

Most of this was yttrx "plonking" people multiple times.

etc... etc.. etc..

 5: [News] More on Rootkits; Vista Holey Even Before Release?...... :    65
 6: Linux slopware market share LESS THAN 1/2 percent.............. :    55
 7: Mac Captures 12% of Laptop Market, what did Linux get?......... :    52
 8: VMWare to announce virtualization for OSX - MacOSX_UNIX.pdf (01 :    52
 9: OSX 10.5 - Leopard Screen Shots................................ :    51
10: And some were saying that Mac is 3-4 years ahead of Linux...... :    47
11: Why did Apple sell a crappy OS for over twenty years?.......... :    47
12: Ubuntu on a Mac................................................ :    46
13: Oxford advcates pirating OS X.................................. :    39
14: How could Linux save PC Games.................................. :    35
15: Vista's Speech Recoginition is a killer........................ :    33
16: Linux no threat to Windows..................................... :    33
17: [News] US Senator Wants to Tax FLOSS........................... :    29
18: I apologise for bashing KDE in this newsgroup.................. :    29
19: Linux is falling behind technologically........................ :    26
20: Vista default Startup and Shutdown sounds finalised............ :    25

>> If you feel compelled to post [News] could you batch all your stories in one
>> or two messages a day?
> 
> 	Then potential items of interest are no longer "indexed" so that
> you don't have to pay attention to items you have no real interest. So 
> instead of just skimming through the crap you have to wade hip deep in it.

They're not "indexed" that way now, since Roy's subjet headers seldom have
much to do with the actual contents of his messages.  Further, history has
shown that threads seldom stay related to their subjects.

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