In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Roy Schestowitz
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wrote
on Thu, 24 Aug 2006 17:48:48 +0100
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> __/ [ Oliver Wong ] on Thursday 24 August 2006 17:03 \__
>
>>
>> "Roy Schestowitz" <newsgroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:2128228.ZnMDtNPAPg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Viruses and Spyware Cost Users $7.8 Billion
>>>
>>> ,----[ Quote ]
>>> | "It's hard to tell who's losing the money -- the insurance company,
>>> | the credit card company or the consumer -- but it's coming out of
>>> | someone's pockets," said Dan Hubbard, vice president of security and
>>> | research for Websense Inc.
>>> `----
>>>
>>> http://www.newsfactor.com/story.xhtml?story_id=45613
>>>
>>> I don't think that <time=money> even falls into this monetary equation.
>>> This
>>> ought to include defrag, occasional reinstallation (due to Regitry bloat
>>> or
>>> infection), and addition of software (Windows is thin), which in its own
>>> right is costly.
>>
>> I see "defrag" mentioned a lot, but I think it's pretty much FUD now.
>> None of the Windows users I know defrag their harddrives, and it's not
>> because they don't know how. I used to do it, but I found out empirically
>> that my computer runs just as fast when completely fragmented (or if
>> there's a slowdown, it's imperceptible).
>
> So let's exchange defrag with crashes and reboots, which are needed when
> updates are fetched (apparently not in Vista). In Linux, on the contrary,
> only kernel updates (a rarity) require a reboot. Any reboot still occupies
> some time.
And only if the user accepts them. However, kernel updates
aren't all that rare.
This is the ChangeLog list from
http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6 .
[ ] ChangeLog-2.6.0 18-Dec-2003 03:04 12K
[ ] ChangeLog-2.6.1 09-Jan-2004 07:08 189K
[ ] ChangeLog-2.6.2 04-Feb-2004 04:06 286K
[ ] ChangeLog-2.6.3 18-Feb-2004 04:11 300K
[ ] ChangeLog-2.6.4 11-Mar-2004 03:17 321K
[ ] ChangeLog-2.6.5 04-Apr-2004 03:52 358K
[ ] ChangeLog-2.6.6 10-May-2004 02:52 487K
[ ] ChangeLog-2.6.7 16-Jun-2004 05:50 761K
[ ] ChangeLog-2.6.8 14-Aug-2004 06:02 883K
[ ] ChangeLog-2.6.8.1 14-Aug-2004 11:12 263
[ ] ChangeLog-2.6.9 19-Oct-2004 17:44 1.2M
[ ] ChangeLog-2.6.10 24-Dec-2004 22:30 1.5M
[ ] ChangeLog-2.6.11 02-Mar-2005 15:36 1.4M
[ ] ChangeLog-2.6.11.1 09-Mar-2005 00:41 1.2K
[ ] ChangeLog-2.6.11.2 09-Mar-2005 08:17 235
[ ] ChangeLog-2.6.11.3 13-Mar-2005 06:55 8.0K
[ ] ChangeLog-2.6.11.4 16-Mar-2005 00:11 1.0K
[ ] ChangeLog-2.6.11.5 19-Mar-2005 06:40 5.0K
[ ] ChangeLog-2.6.11.6 26-Mar-2005 03:31 2.8K
[ ] ChangeLog-2.6.11.7 07-Apr-2005 19:01 5.6K
[ ] ChangeLog-2.6.11.8 30-Apr-2005 01:43 5.9K
[ ] ChangeLog-2.6.11.9 11-May-2005 22:47 2.1K
[ ] ChangeLog-2.6.11.10 16-May-2005 18:17 3.0K
[ ] ChangeLog-2.6.11.11 27-May-2005 05:57 14K
[ ] ChangeLog-2.6.11.12 12-Jun-2005 02:58 563
[ ] ChangeLog-2.6.12 17-Jun-2005 22:12 1.0M
[ ] ChangeLog-2.6.12.1 22-Jun-2005 22:00 1.1K
[ ] ChangeLog-2.6.12.2 30-Jun-2005 00:11 5.3K
[ ] ChangeLog-2.6.12.3 15-Jul-2005 21:38 7.6K
[ ] ChangeLog-2.6.12.4 05-Aug-2005 21:11 11K
[ ] ChangeLog-2.6.12.5 15-Aug-2005 00:36 7.7K
[ ] ChangeLog-2.6.12.6 29-Aug-2005 17:18 4.5K
[ ] ChangeLog-2.6.13 29-Aug-2005 02:58 2.3M
[ ] ChangeLog-2.6.13.1 10-Sep-2005 02:52 8.5K
[ ] ChangeLog-2.6.13.2 18-Sep-2005 04:19 7.4K
[ ] ChangeLog-2.6.13.3 03-Oct-2005 23:38 8.0K
[ ] ChangeLog-2.6.13.4 10-Oct-2005 19:26 4.8K
[ ] ChangeLog-2.6.13.5 15-Dec-2005 19:15 2.2K
[ ] ChangeLog-2.6.14 28-Oct-2005 00:17 2.1M
[ ] ChangeLog-2.6.14.1 09-Nov-2005 01:01 930
[ ] ChangeLog-2.6.14.2 11-Nov-2005 06:07 9.9K
[ ] ChangeLog-2.6.14.3 24-Nov-2005 22:15 14K
[ ] ChangeLog-2.6.14.4 15-Dec-2005 00:27 16K
[ ] ChangeLog-2.6.14.5 27-Dec-2005 00:29 12K
[ ] ChangeLog-2.6.14.6 08-Jan-2006 02:19 5.0K
[ ] ChangeLog-2.6.14.7 31-Jan-2006 06:54 3.7K
[ ] ChangeLog-2.6.15 03-Jan-2006 04:55 2.5M
[ ] ChangeLog-2.6.15.1 15-Jan-2006 06:27 12K
[ ] ChangeLog-2.6.15.2 31-Jan-2006 06:28 7.9K
[ ] ChangeLog-2.6.15.3 06-Feb-2006 23:39 785
[ ] ChangeLog-2.6.15.4 10-Feb-2006 07:47 14K
[ ] ChangeLog-2.6.15.5 01-Mar-2006 22:36 26K
[ ] ChangeLog-2.6.15.6 05-Mar-2006 19:07 3.0K
[ ] ChangeLog-2.6.15.7 28-Mar-2006 07:33 6.9K
[ ] ChangeLog-2.6.16 20-Mar-2006 06:14 2.9M
[ ] ChangeLog-2.6.16.1 28-Mar-2006 06:51 16K
[ ] ChangeLog-2.6.16.2 07-Apr-2006 17:01 16K
[ ] ChangeLog-2.6.16.3 11-Apr-2006 05:48 1.1K
[ ] ChangeLog-2.6.16.4 11-Apr-2006 17:21 596
[ ] ChangeLog-2.6.16.5 12-Apr-2006 20:30 1.4K
[ ] ChangeLog-2.6.16.6 17-Apr-2006 20:43 19K
[ ] ChangeLog-2.6.16.7 17-Apr-2006 21:55 537
[ ] ChangeLog-2.6.16.8 18-Apr-2006 21:35 821
[ ] ChangeLog-2.6.16.9 19-Apr-2006 06:14 1.7K
[ ] ChangeLog-2.6.16.10 24-Apr-2006 17:09 17K
[ ] ChangeLog-2.6.16.11 24-Apr-2006 20:22 647
[ ] ChangeLog-2.6.16.12 01-May-2006 19:17 21K
[ ] ChangeLog-2.6.16.13 02-May-2006 21:48 827
[ ] ChangeLog-2.6.16.14 05-May-2006 00:25 733
[ ] ChangeLog-2.6.16.15 09-May-2006 20:05 3.4K
[ ] ChangeLog-2.6.16.16 11-May-2006 02:06 1.0K
[ ] ChangeLog-2.6.16.17 20-May-2006 22:18 28K
[ ] ChangeLog-2.6.16.18 22-May-2006 18:19 1.3K
[ ] ChangeLog-2.6.16.19 31-May-2006 00:30 662
[ ] ChangeLog-2.6.16.20 05-Jun-2006 17:17 10K
[ ] ChangeLog-2.6.16.21 20-Jun-2006 09:10 3.3K
[ ] ChangeLog-2.6.16.22 22-Jun-2006 19:16 11K
[ ] ChangeLog-2.6.16.23 30-Jun-2006 21:20 1.3K
[ ] ChangeLog-2.6.16.24 06-Jul-2006 20:07 826
[ ] ChangeLog-2.6.16.25 15-Jul-2006 02:35 763
[ ] ChangeLog-2.6.16.26 15-Jul-2006 19:50 572
[ ] ChangeLog-2.6.16.27 17-Jul-2006 14:07 2.1K
[ ] ChangeLog-2.6.17 18-Jun-2006 02:01 3.2M
[ ] ChangeLog-2.6.17.1 20-Jun-2006 09:46 601
[ ] ChangeLog-2.6.17.2 30-Jun-2006 00:30 16K
[ ] ChangeLog-2.6.17.3 30-Jun-2006 17:51 866
[ ] ChangeLog-2.6.17.4 06-Jul-2006 20:05 825
[ ] ChangeLog-2.6.17.5 15-Jul-2006 02:42 762
[ ] ChangeLog-2.6.17.6 15-Jul-2006 19:17 571
[ ] ChangeLog-2.6.17.7 25-Jul-2006 03:40 29K
[ ] ChangeLog-2.6.17.8 07-Aug-2006 05:05 18K
[ ] ChangeLog-2.6.17.9 18-Aug-2006 16:35 611
[ ] ChangeLog-2.6.17.10 22-Aug-2006 19:23 1.7K
[ ] ChangeLog-2.6.17.11 23-Aug-2006 21:25 16K
94 entries between 2003-12-18 and 2006-08-23, a span of 979 days.
This is one kernel patch every 10 1/2 days, give or take.
I don't know if this is good or bad -- probably not all
that bad. It's one metric among many, and I frankly don't
know how to measure the Quality Problem(tm).
>
> About a year ago I argued that Vista's improves patching system is an
> indication that many patches will be needed, i.e. it's the Windows XP saga
> all over again. If I reboot my computer, it takes 5-10 minutes to restore a
> session, despite the fact that KDE revives all the processes and restores
> them to the exact same state. I only reboot a few times a year and I can't
> imagine having to rearrange the desktop more frequently. No wonder Windows
> gives you just a single workspace. It'll all be gone (and no applications
> restored) at the end of the day, so why even bother?
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Roy
>
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Windows Vista. Because it's time to refresh your hardware. Trust us.
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