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Re: ~article~ Google could face Brazil lawsuit

John Bokma wrote:

> Roy Schestowitz <newsgroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
>> __/ [ Paul ] on Thursday 24 August 2006 10:13 \__
>> 
>>> From http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/5278370.stm
>>> 
>>> Google could face legal action in Brazil for failing to provide
>>> details of site users allegedly involved in pornography and crime.
>>> Brazilian prosecutors say that Google's community website Orkut -
>>> popular in Brazil - contains information promoting crime and child
>>> pornography.
>>> 
>>> <snip />
>> 
>> In related new, MSN Messenger has just gotten a panic button for kids
>> to report sexual predators. It's sad, isn't it? The Internet has
>> become a heaven for mentally-deranged people. And the UK government
>> wants to collect everyone's encryption keys... because of paedophiles.
> 
> I thought it was because of parents who think it's a good idea to let your 
> kids behind the computer unsupervised when they are 9 years old without 
> even understanding the basics themselves?

Agreed, parents need to be educated about this a lot more than they
are now.
 
> Anyway, for some time I was wondering:
> 
> compared to 30 years ago:
> 
>  - has the probability increased that a child encounters an adult
>    that shows his private parts?
>  - has the probability increased that an adult sets up a meeting with
>    a child?

In the wild: I don't think so. But obviously, the internet is a large
place with lots of contact. Do the math: how many people do you talk
to online every day, usenet included? How many people would you have
been talking to every day if you lived in the pre-internet age?
 
> I wonder if there are real figures of the above, or that just everybody 
> thinks: adult + webcam + child + webcam = abuse heaven.

Do the test yourself - pretend to be a 10 or 11 year old on myspace,
and see how fast you get 'friends' that aren't quite kosher.
 
> Moreover, it's not tackling the real problem: lazy ignorant parents.
> IMNSHO if a kid sees a naked guy on his MSN Messenger the parents should 
> be kicked in their asses, hard.

The problem is, that it's not the other person that's naked on the
webcam. Kids get lured into exposing themselves, for money. They don't
even get to see the adult on the other end.
12 year old encounters people on MSN, and after making friends (they
portray themselves as peers, not adults), they get the kid to take his
shirt off for money. Slowly they get the kid to do a lot more, one
step at a time. There's a whole network of paedophiles who swap msn
addresses of kids that are succesfully lured into this.

(Saw a very informative Oprah show a little while ago)

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