Is the Adobe-Google Relationship Good for Adobe?
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| Thinking speculatively, Google is on the march itself and may view
| a relationship with Adobe as an ends to a means such as overtaking
| Microsoft.
|
| Relative market caps show Adobe at $24 Billion, Google at $148
| Billion and Microsoft at $296 Billion. Google needs something like
| Adobe. Microsoft does not have the same perspective. Watch the
| "other" category at Adobe. Will it become a bear hug or just
| another strategic relationship?
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http://biz.yahoo.com/seekingalpha/061215/22523_id.html?.v=1
IBM, Sun and others are helping as well.
Related:
Adobe Preps Response to Microsoft XPS
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| Adobe may already own the market for electronic documents thanks to
| PDF, but the company knows that Microsoft has a habit of showing up
| late to the party and stealing the crown. In turn, Adobe is beta
| testing a new project it calls "Mars," which is an answer to
| Microsoft's new XPS format.
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http://www.betanews.com/article/Adobe_Preps_Response_to_Microsoft_XPS/1165967018
Where's Microsoft's 'Flash killer'?
,----[ Quote ]
| Anyone out there still remember Windows Presentation Foundation
| Everywhere (WPF/e), Microsoft's so-called Flash killer?
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http://blogs.zdnet.com/microsoft/?p=98
PDF and XPS: When Acronyms Compete
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| Right now, Adobe is working with European regulators, according to
| published reports. Lawsuit is another option being considered by the
| San Jose, Calif.-based company.
|
| [...]
|
| XPS removal from Office 2007 would suggest that Microsoft feared
| Adobe could make at least a seemingly legitimate legal complaint.
| The brunt of lawsuits has been against Windows, not Office. Microsoft
| would want to keep Office out of the line of legal fire.
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http://www.microsoft-watch.com/content/business_applications/pdf_and_xps_when_acronyms_compete.html?kc=MWRSS02129TX1K0000535
http://tinyurl.com/yxpplw
Microsoft's PDF-killer heads towards standards body
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| There's no doubt about it: Adobe's Portable Document Format---better
| known as PDF---is a choice tool for digital document delivery. Some
| might say that it's the tool for delivering complex documents to wide
| array of users, as its design allows for faithful rendering on any
| platform that supports PDF---application issues, font problems,
| layout quirks, etc., need need not apply.
|
| Enter Microsoft...
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http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20061015-7992.html
Windows Vista Product Guide: Free to Download, $149 to Read
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| 'Windows Vista Product Guide' was released in two formats:
|
| Microsoft Office Word 2007
| The standard .doc format isn't good enough, you need to be able to
| read a .docx file, so all those users of Office XP are just plain
| out of luck on
| this one.
|
| XPS
| What the heck is XPS? I hadn't heard of it before now, (a quick
| Google tells me XPS is Microsoft's proprietary rival to PDF)
| but apparently you need a special reader for it (which is
| kindly enough built into Vista, but nothing else).
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http://itsvista.com/2006/12/windows-vista-product-guide-free-to-download-149-to-read/
Adobe could still sue Microsoft: paper
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| Microsoft's new Vista software, due to be released early next
| year, contains a version of fixed document formats which would
| compete with Adobe's PDF format. Microsoft has pledged to make
| changes to its version.
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20061118/tc_nm/adobe_microsoft_dc
ECMA passage of Open XML was no surprise
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| Now we all move on. The battle for truly open and non-vendor
| dictated standards is far from over and is gaining momentum.
| Assume nothing. Should you favor everyone being able to
| implement real open standards I think you'll be pleasantly
| surprised come one year from now. (I know you can interpret
| that last sentence in several ways!)
|
| Let me also clear up one last thing, something I more or
| less said in a comment a little while ago. I would like
| nothing better to see Microsoft try to provide the best
| native and well integrated implementation of ODF on the
| planet. It would represent a real change in the industry
| regarding community developed and maintain open standards.
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http://www.sutor.com/newsite/blog-open/?p=1281
"Taking Microsoft's ODF Plugin for a Spin... Splat"
http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20060720063746488
Is Open XML a one way specification for most people?
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| Who will implement Open XML correctly and fully? Maybe Microsoft.
| Why? Since it is essentially a dump into XML of all the data
| needed for all the functionality of their Office products and
| since those products are proprietary, only they will understand
| any nuances that go beyond the spec. The spec may illuminate
| some of the mistakes that have been made and are now being
| written into a so called standard for all to have to implement,
| but I'm guessing there might be a few other shades of meaning
| that will not be clear. Fully and correctly implementing Open
| XML will require the cloning of a large portion of Microsoft's
| product. Best of luck doing that, especially since they have
| over a decade head start. Also, since they have avoided using
| industry standards like SVG and MathML, you'll have to
| reimplement Microsoft's flavor of many things. You had
| better start now. So therefore I conclude that while Microsoft
| may end up supporting most of Open XML (and we'll have to
| see the final products to see how much and how correctly),
| other products will likely only end up supporting a subset.
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http://sutor.com/newsite/blog-open/?p=1145
Is Office Open XML A One-Way Standard? Ask Microsoft
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| Way back in October, Bob Sutor, IBM's open standards guru, wrote
| a piece on his blog where he described the Office Open XML
| standard as a one way standard, because the format is so complex
| and so geared towards compatibility with legacy Office compatibility
| that it could never be implemented as a fully functional file format
| by any competing personal productivity applications (PPAs) like
| WordPerfect and OpenOffice. I agree with a lot of his points but
| didn't feel compelled to write about it since the issue had been
| covered pretty comprehensively in the blogosphere.
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http://blogs.adobe.com/shebanation/2006/12/open_xml_one-way.html
Signs That Your "Open Standard" May Not Be Open Enough
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| If OOXML is an open standard, why must Mac MS Office users wait so
| long for OOXML support? Correct me if I am wrong, but MS Office on
| the Mac is developed by Microsoft themselves, how is it that the
| Windows Office development team had access to the OOXML specification
| but the Mac Office team did not?
|
| [...]
|
| Microsoft's ECMA submission comprised more than 6,000 pages. The
| challenge of plowing through so much could drag out
| approval by ISO. (ODF's submission was less than 700 pages.)
|
| [...]
|
| So, while Microsoft's own developers struggle to comprehend and
| implement their own proposed "standard" file format, perhaps Mac
| MS Office customers can use Novell OpenOffice for their Windows MS
| Office compatibility needs.
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http://boycottnovell.com/2006/12/07/signs-that-your-open-standard-may-not-be-open-enough/
Microsoft Office lock-in and the deal with Novell
,----[ Quote ]
| It details how Microsoft has built into Vista the "trusted
| computing" ability to lock down Office files via DRM such that
| no unauthorized document reader will be able to decrypt and
| read them. This is perhaps one of the biggest hidden weapons
| Microsoft has in its arsenal that could sabotage Linux and
| OpenOffice.org if Microsoft succeeds in its attempt to plug
| SUSE and all Novell's "interoperability" bonuses.
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http://www.linuxjournal.com/node/1000142
Novell's "Danaergeschenk", by Georg Greve
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| So in the case of OpenXML, Microsoft now seems to be using Novell to
| put a pro forma implementation of OpenXML into OpenOffice.org, which
| will make it easier to migrate from OpenOffice.org to Microsoft
| Office but can never be sufficient to read all Microsoft Word Documents.
|
| One reason for this is the sheer size of the implementation; another
| reason relates to the containers used within OpenXML, which make use
| of Microsoft's proprietary implementations instead of industry
| standards such as SVG. Moreover, there is really no knowing what
| kind of hooks Microsoft has put into the specification that people
| will not detect at first reading. Indeed, it is quite possible
| that OpenXML will allow what Bruce Perens refers to as "Predatory
| Pratices" in his definition of an Open Standard.
|
| And while there will be a migration path from OpenOffice.org to
| Microsoft Office, Microsoft avoids opening the inverse path to
| any other ODF-compliant Office program, by neglecting ODF support
| in Microsoft Office.
|
| [...]
|
| Bob Sutor, IBM's Vice President of Standards and Open Source has
| written a good analysis why the specification is more akin to a
| denial of service attack than an Open Standard. OpenXML
| basically represents a change of strategy: Instead of trying
| to hide information by not telling anything about their products
| to anyone, they've apparently now switched to hiding information
| in noise, which is by far the more effective method.
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http://groklaw.net/article.php?story=20061208135621706
How to Write a Standard (If you Must)
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| If possible choose an implementation that has layers of complexity
| from years of undisciplined agglomeration of features. Of course
| this will lead to a specification of Byzantine complexity and
| epic length. But since no one will actually read the
| specification, there is no harm. In fact the length and
| complexity can bring several benefits: 1. Any criticism of the
| specification can automatically be dismissed as nitpicking. For
| example, if you are presented with a list of 500 faults in a
| 6,000 pages specification, you can respond, "That is less than
| 10%. You are just nitpicking. We can fix that in release 1.1".
| ... 2. Further, since review periods at ISO and most other
| standards bodies are of fixed length, regardless of the length
| of the specification, a sufficiently large specification will
| ensure that it receives no, or only cursory review.
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http://www.robweir.com/blog/2006/12/how-to-write-standard-if-you-must.html
Microsoft makes a Basic mistake with Office 2007
,----[ Quote ]
| Microsoft Office isn't among the apps that will run natively on
| Intel-based Macs--and it won?t be until the latter half of 2007,
| according to media reports. But when it does ship, Office will
| apparently be missing a feature so vital to cross-platform
| compatibility that I believe it will be the beginning of the
| end for the Mac version of the productivity suite.
`----
http://www.macworld.com/2006/12/opinion/microsoft/index.php
Microsoft's draft Open XML straitjacket arrives
,----[ Quote ]
| While Microsoft is proposing this as the better alternative to ODF
| (OpenDocument Format), as Andrew "Andy" Updegrove, a partner with Boston
| law firm Gesmer Updegrove LLP and the editor of ConsortiumInfo.org,
| points out, the level is so high, that if Open XML became a standard,
| "only clones can be built, which is good for interoperability, but death
| to innovation. It can also be death to competition, since if (as in this
| case) the standard is based on an existing product, then no would-be
| competitor would ever expect to be able to catch up with the incumbent,
| much less compete on price."
|
| How extreme is the level of detail? Brian Jones, a Microsoft Office
| program manager, cites "the documentation for the simple type "ST_Border"
| which starts on page 1617 (it's in the WordprocessingML reference
| section under simple types). That shows a list of almost 200 legacy
| border patterns that you can apply to objects in a Word document."
|
| And, at this point, eWEEK's ace reporter Peter Galli quotes a
| Microsoft spokesperson as saying, "And this is just the first draft."
|
| This isn't a standard; it's a straitjacket.
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http://www.desktoplinux.com/news/NS9189598911.html
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