__/ [ Mark Kent ] on Tuesday 11 July 2006 23:32 \__
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> Roy Schestowitz <newsgroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> espoused:
>> __/ [ Kier ] on Tuesday 11 July 2006 21:02 \__
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>>> On Tue, 11 Jul 2006 20:44:33 +0100, Roy Schestowitz wrote:
>>>
>>>> __/ [ Mark Kent ] on Tuesday 11 July 2006 17:34 \__
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>>>>> Roy Schestowitz <newsgroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> espoused:
>>>>>> __/ [ B Gruff ] on Tuesday 11 July 2006 12:36 \__
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/5165528.stm
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Fascinating!
>>>>>>> The week that "they" terminate W98, the BBC re-load W98, and guess
>>>>>>> what?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Despite Microsoft's claims that Windows 98 makes using the net
>>>>>>> easier, finding a browser that worked with the raw operating system
>>>>>>> was a challenge"
>>>>>>> "Internet Explorer 4.0 is now obsolete and it proved impossible to
>>>>>>> download a newer version of the browser from the Microsoft site using
>>>>>>> the old software"
>>>>>>> "The only browser I could get working straight off was Opera - once I
>>>>>>> had that working updating other components got easier"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There must be a lesson there somewhere:-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am not sure about this (speaking from memory without verification),
>>>>>> but I believe that Mozilla Firefox is dropping Windows 98 support as
>>>>>> well. This includes security patches. Yet another reason to depart
>>>>>> from Windows 98 and upgrade the O/S without buying new hardware. And
>>>>>> voila! No need to download and install Firefox, under many/most
>>>>>> circumstances. No rusty OE, either, to make matters better.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ^
>>>> Sloppiness and typos tidied up
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> As someone mentioned a while ago, it would've been good if there'd been
>>>>> a liveCD ready to run on such machines. Perhaps a knoppix one, or
>>>>> maybe we should point users to debian?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The issue is one: RAM. A Live CD needs a good lump of RAM in order to be
>>>> responsive and give the prospective user a positive impression. Even
>>>> when the user is warned in advance, this 'marketing CD' (most likely not
>>>> just a distro 'testing CD' in this case) will make a weak argument. My
>>>> bet is that many current Windows 98 users will raid on-line forums
>>>> asking for help. Not all can afford or interested in purchasing new
>>>> hardware.
>>>
>>> Slax is pretty fast on most average-normal hardware, and if you have 256
>>> or above RAM (I think that's the limit) you can load it all into memory
>>> and have it run even quicker.
>>
>> On my Windows 98 laptop I had no more than 32 MB of RAM. This can be a
>> peril and a pain, not just to Live CD's, but to installers as well.
>>
>
> True, although debian should install with that without any problem. If
> you've a liveCD which is smart enough to find the windows swap file,
> you might be able to manage?
I never knew that Live CD's could venture to go as far as that, overwriting
the swap file of Windows, to be used by self. I guess it requires some
confidence, as to avoid distater (Live CD's often promise that the
hard-drive will be unaffected). It can be hard with these highly fragmented
Windows FS's (spreadign across and using sectors all over the place, some
would say to hinder re-partitioning and dual boots).
> These things will be fat anyway, so
> there's no problem writing to the file.
FAT and fat. Just published:
http://www.desktoplinux.com/news/NS2501946250.html
Xandros 4: relief for Windows 98/ME orphans
I was going to post this as a new thread, but I guess this will do. Xandros,
by the way, can write to NTFS partitions/FS's. Out of the box, that is,
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