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Roy Schestowitz <newsgroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> espoused:
> __/ [ Mark Kent ] on Tuesday 11 July 2006 23:32 \__
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>> Roy Schestowitz <newsgroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> espoused:
>>> __/ [ Kier ] on Tuesday 11 July 2006 21:02 \__
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>>>> On Tue, 11 Jul 2006 20:44:33 +0100, Roy Schestowitz wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> __/ [ Mark Kent ] on Tuesday 11 July 2006 17:34 \__
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>>>>>> Roy Schestowitz <newsgroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> espoused:
>>>>>>> __/ [ B Gruff ] on Tuesday 11 July 2006 12:36 \__
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/5165528.stm
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Fascinating!
>>>>>>>> The week that "they" terminate W98, the BBC re-load W98, and guess
>>>>>>>> what?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Despite Microsoft's claims that Windows 98 makes using the net
>>>>>>>> easier, finding a browser that worked with the raw operating system
>>>>>>>> was a challenge"
>>>>>>>> "Internet Explorer 4.0 is now obsolete and it proved impossible to
>>>>>>>> download a newer version of the browser from the Microsoft site using
>>>>>>>> the old software"
>>>>>>>> "The only browser I could get working straight off was Opera - once I
>>>>>>>> had that working updating other components got easier"
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> There must be a lesson there somewhere:-)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am not sure about this (speaking from memory without verification),
>>>>>>> but I believe that Mozilla Firefox is dropping Windows 98 support as
>>>>>>> well. This includes security patches. Yet another reason to depart
>>>>>>> from Windows 98 and upgrade the O/S without buying new hardware. And
>>>>>>> voila! No need to download and install Firefox, under many/most
>>>>>>> circumstances. No rusty OE, either, to make matters better.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ^
>>>>> Sloppiness and typos tidied up
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> As someone mentioned a while ago, it would've been good if there'd been
>>>>>> a liveCD ready to run on such machines. Perhaps a knoppix one, or
>>>>>> maybe we should point users to debian?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The issue is one: RAM. A Live CD needs a good lump of RAM in order to be
>>>>> responsive and give the prospective user a positive impression. Even
>>>>> when the user is warned in advance, this 'marketing CD' (most likely not
>>>>> just a distro 'testing CD' in this case) will make a weak argument. My
>>>>> bet is that many current Windows 98 users will raid on-line forums
>>>>> asking for help. Not all can afford or interested in purchasing new
>>>>> hardware.
>>>>
>>>> Slax is pretty fast on most average-normal hardware, and if you have 256
>>>> or above RAM (I think that's the limit) you can load it all into memory
>>>> and have it run even quicker.
>>>
>>> On my Windows 98 laptop I had no more than 32 MB of RAM. This can be a
>>> peril and a pain, not just to Live CD's, but to installers as well.
>>>
>>
>> True, although debian should install with that without any problem. If
>> you've a liveCD which is smart enough to find the windows swap file,
>> you might be able to manage?
>
>
> I never knew that Live CD's could venture to go as far as that, overwriting
> the swap file of Windows, to be used by self. I guess it requires some
> confidence, as to avoid distater (Live CD's often promise that the
> hard-drive will be unaffected).
It was more of a question than a statement... but I do recall that
monkey linux used to install directly onto the fat filesystem, and use
UMSDOS to manage the necessary metadata for the files, and would share
the windows swap file.
> It can be hard with these highly fragmented
> Windows FS's (spreadign across and using sectors all over the place, some
> would say to hinder re-partitioning and dual boots).
It would have to be done through the fat driver, I think.
>
>
>> These things will be fat anyway, so
>> there's no problem writing to the file.
>
>
> FAT and fat. Just published:
>
> http://www.desktoplinux.com/news/NS2501946250.html
>
> Xandros 4: relief for Windows 98/ME orphans
>
> I was going to post this as a new thread, but I guess this will do. Xandros,
> by the way, can write to NTFS partitions/FS's. Out of the box, that is,
>
>
Umm - impressive!
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