__/ [ M ] on Friday 05 May 2006 20:04 \__
> Linonut wrote:
>> After takin' a swig o' grog, DFS belched out this bit o' wisdom:
>>> Linonut wrote:
>>>> After takin' a swig o' grog, DFS belched out this bit o' wisdom:
>>>>> On the contrary. In my opinion no desktop Linux distro is a threat
>>>>> to Windows. At all. Especially not a Gnome-based one like Ubuntu.
>>>>> No matter how good it is, no matter how free it is, no matter how
>>>>> many open source apps and games and utilities and text editors are
>>>>> included. Windows has the PC world by the balls.
>>>> That is probably about the best summary of Microsoft I've ever seen.
>>>> I'm putting it into my sig, but will take it out or modify it if you
>>>> object once you see it.
>>> Thanks for asking.
>>> In this case I do object a bit, but only because it has my name in it.
>>> Drop the 'paraphrased ...' part and it's a good .sig for a paranoid
>> Okay. Done.
>>> I object because, in my mind, there's a huge distinction between MS
>>> having the PC world by the balls, and Windows having the PC world by the
>> How so? MS made Windows, and they use it as their tool to grab vendors
>> and users by the balls.
>>> This requires considering them as two separate entities: a business
>>> organization and a product. My position is that no matter who owns or
>>> sells it, Windows, by virtue of its ubiquity and MS Office and enormous
>>> universe of great apps and vendor hardware support, is so entrenched that
>>> desktop Linux has almost no hope against it.
>> I sort of agree. Windows is a de facto standard, and as such will be
>> difficult to dislodge. I think it will take a long time for Windows to
>> "go away", and it might be Linux that does it in. There are still some
>> issues to work out, and it is not clear that the coders really want to
>> work them all out. I certainly don't, as I'm not a fan of the way
>> Microsoft programmers like to do things.
>> If the rest of the world begins to reject the Windows model (swiss
>> cheese security, your machine is part of the world network, your
>> computer is a tool of entertainment vendors), then MS's grip will slip.
> What consumers need is a choice at the point of sale. What they also need
> is for the cost of their operating system to be separated out. At the
> moment they are not really given the chance to make an informed choice. In
> the vast majority of cases the computer is sold pre-loaded with MS Windows,
> and the cost is hidden.
> In spite of all the efforts that Ubuntu (and it's siblings) along with
> PCLinuxOS and all the rest to make installation really easy, from the
> people I have talked to, linux still seems to have a perception problem. If
> people are not open minded either then that doesn't help.
> It would be very interesting to see if people's perception of Linux would
> change if one of the Linux vendors went on the offencive with an
> advertising campaign, or if computer mags started to educate the general
> public about linux.
> I think Google started advertising Firefox on their US web site. Would be
> really interesting to see what would happen if they also started pushing
> Linux too, and the campaign went world-wide. This strikes me as one company
> that could seriously undermine Microsoft if they choose to do so.
Intersting. The thoughts of Open Office promotion through US SERP's led me to
the same thoughts which you expressed above. A few days ago I even wrote the
Google are often criticised for giving back too little to GNU/Linux. This is
their chance to catch up while serving their own interests, which among
other things, are to hinder adoption of Windows Vista with the MSN/Live
search bars. Firefox and Opera (even Konqueror!) point to Google.
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