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Re: folders for palm

  • Subject: Re: folders for palm
  • From: Roy Schestowitz <newsgroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 13 May 2006 18:24:05 +0100
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__/ [ JohnW ] on Saturday 13 May 2006 07:32 \__

> "Juergen Kuehne" <hexelbox@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:e42ma1$r95$02$1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> JohnW wrote:
>>> "Nico" wrote
>>
>>>>Hi guys, does anybody knows about the existence of a program to create
>>>>folders on a palm?Thanks!.
>>>
>>> I'm not sure that you can create a folder on a palm - I'm not sure why
>>> you would really want to. You can however make a folder on an SD card in
>>> a Palm with an app such as FileProg.
>>
>> Its one of missing functions I have been looking for "since ever" I am
>> using Palm (but only one year plus...).


I believe it's a legacy and a backward compatibility 'thing'.


>> If I would have folders, I could install all necessary files for one
>> application in one folder. If no longer of interest, only delete one
>> folder, no searching for depending files etc.


Good point. Logical things fit under a hierarchy, a tree, a taxonomy. Losing
this ability to discern and sort items is detrimental and leads to a mess.
It's also deters extension and growth (e.g. try to list directory with
10,000 files) and identify files without scrolling or using regex.


>> The way of PalmOS is little bit crazy, every file without duplicate names
>> (like readme etc) in one big "system folder" in RAM.


Never had this problem before. On the positive side, SD cards make the
exception and they can also sort media in a logical manner, which fits
nicely on a personal computer once you use a card reader.


>> Many many years ago I have had folders on my Psion 3mx, much more better
>> and much more efficient (although non-program-files had to be normally in
>> a functional folder).
>>
>> juergen
> 
> I think its swings and roundabouts - because most (all?) Palm apps look for
> any data file that it's capable of opening, sometimes it makes a pleasant
> chnage nice to just see a list of everything without having to drill up and
> down trees. If we get to the stage that the internal memory of the Palm
> gets any larger then I may change my mind. Also bear in mind that most apps
> allow you to categorise files. I take your point about the ease of deleting
> (or I suppose archiving) of a bunch of files that are no longer required
> but I don't think I've ever had that problem.


It's a tradeoff between simplicity (ease-of-use) and function (power in term
of expressiveness), which can lead to deadlocks and confusion. Either way,
novelty is the way to go. The last time I checked, personal computers had
directories (or 'folders' as Windows calls them).

Best wishes,

Roy

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