Home Messages Index
[Date Prev][Date Next][Thread Prev][Thread Next]
Author IndexDate IndexThread Index

Re: [News] Samba's Full Statement: "Strong Disapproves" Novell Deal

Roy Schestowitz <newsgroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> __/ [ yttrx ] on Monday 13 November 2006 22:25 \__
> 
>> Roy Schestowitz <newsgroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> __/ [ yttrx ] on Monday 13 November 2006 19:46 \__
>>> 
>>>> BearItAll <spam@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>> yttrx wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> BearItAll <spam@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>> Roy Schestowitz wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Quoted for its value:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Samba Team Asks Novell to Reconsider
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> ,----[ Quote ]
>>>>>>>> | The Samba Team disapproves strongly of the actions taken by Novell
>>>>>>>> | on November 2nd.
>>>>>>>> | 
>>>>>>>> | One of the fundamental differences between the proprietary software
>>>>>>>> | world and the free software world is that the proprietary software
>>>>>>>> | world divides users by forcing them to agree to coercive licensing
>>>>>>>> | agreements which restrict their rights to share with each other,
>>>>>>>> | whereas the free software world encourages users to unite and share
>>>>>>>> | the benefits of the software.
>>>>>>>> | 
>>>>>>>> | The patent agreement struck between Novell and Microsoft is a
>>>>>>>> | divisive agreement. It deals with users and creators of free
>>>>>>>> | software differently depending on their "commercial" versus
>>>>>>>> | "non-commercial" status, and deals with them differently depending
>>>>>>>> | on whether they obtained their free software directly from Novell
>>>>>>>> | or from someone else.
>>>>>>>> | 
>>>>>>>> | The goals of the Free Software community and the GNU GPL allow for
>>>>>>>> | no such distinctions.
>>>>>>>> | 
>>>>>>>> | Furthermore, the GPL makes it clear that all distributors of GPL'd
>>>>>>>> | software must stand together in the fight against software patents.
>>>>>>>> | Only by standing together do we stand a chance of defending against
>>>>>>>> | the peril represented by software patents. With this agreement
>>>>>>>> | Novelli s attempting to destroy that unified defense, exchanging
>>>>>>>> | the long term interests of the entire Free Software community for a
>>>>>>>> | short term advantage for Novell over their competitors.
>>>>>>>> | 
>>>>>>>> | For Novell to make this deal shows a profound disregard for the
>>>>>>>> | relationship that they have with the Free Software community. We
>>>>>>>> | are, in essence, their suppliers, and Novell should know that they
>>>>>>>> | have no right to make self serving deals on behalf of others which
>>>>>>>> | run contrary to the goals and ideals of the Free Software
>>>>>>>> | community.
>>>>>>>> | 
>>>>>>>> | Using patents as competitive tools in the free software world is
>>>>>>>> | not acceptable. Novell, as a participant in numerous debates,
>>>>>>>> | discussions and conferences on the topic knew this to be the case.
>>>>>>>> | We call upon Novell to work with the Software Freedom Law Center to
>>>>>>>> | undo the patent agreement and acknowledge its obligations as a
>>>>>>>> | beneficiary of the Free Software community.
>>>>>>>> `----
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> http://news.samba.org/announcements/team_to_novell/
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Samba could withdraw the license for Novell to use samba.  That would
>>>>>>> bugger things up a bit.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I can understand samba being worried, but actually Samba have gone,
>>>>>>> imho, too far past the basic file/printer sharing idea. They are
>>>>>>> taking some of the secure aspects of communications and email handling
>>>>>>> away from the Linux, but also for each service their provide the user
>>>>>>> has another level between them and their goal, taking into account
>>>>>>> that every service that is exposed via Samba is already available on
>>>>>>> your Linux.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Secure aspects of communications and email handling?  You don't know
>>>>>> what
>>>>>> the fuck you're talking about.  Samba is now and always was about Unix
>>>>>> and Unix-like operating systems interpolating with windows operating
>>>>>> systems on networks more easily.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Today, that means:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> file and printer sharing
>>>>>> active directory authentication
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> In short, it is about a free implementation of the SMB/CIFS networking
>>>>>> protocols, and thats it, period, end of story.
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Wrong peabrain, you haven't copied the full list, I suspect you don't
>>>>> really know Samba nor did you bother with anything other than the first
>>>>> page of their home page, which is where you copied your text from.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Where I copied my text from?  How about this, you fucking worthless
>>>> goddamn retard:
>>>> 
>>>> QUOTE EXACTLY WHERE I COPIED FROM, AND SUPPLY A URL.
>>>> 
>>>> Otherwise, youre just a lying sack of shit.
>>>> 
>>>> Also, I've set up Samba installations that would confuse you to fucking
>>>> tears, bitch.  I've written smb.conf files from memory for YEARS.
>>>> 
>>>> Seriously, you dont know shit about computers or linux.  Maybe you should
>>>> go somewhere else and learn a little bit first, then come back.
>>> 
>>> Dude, please calm down.
>>> 
>>> You are pissing all over the newsgroups (and UseNet) when you use language
>>> like that. You're only serving the trolls here by hurting the credential
>>> of what's said here. It also drives people away. Remember that it's not
>>> Linux advocates in the Linux advocacy newsgroup that deserve mistreatment
>>> for deliberate trolling for a paycheck. Vent your anger at Erik and his
>>> colleagues from Redmond. They get paid (compensated) for the insults.
>>> 
>>> Best wishes,
>>> 
>>> Roy
>>> 
>> 
>> Hey roy, why dont you SUCK MY BALLS 
> 
> 
> I'd rather let your g/f take care of that.
>

K.
 
> 
>> until you've been posting on usenet
>> for as long as I have.  You're the new kid, bitch.
> 
> 
> That's right. Apart from the "bitch" part!
>

Nah, yer still a bitch.  But its alright, I'm warming up to your style.




-----yttrx



 

-- 
http://www.yttrx.net


[Date Prev][Date Next][Thread Prev][Thread Next]
Author IndexDate IndexThread Index