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Re: 64.4% of E-mail is SPAM (Thanks, Microsoft!)

  • Subject: Re: 64.4% of E-mail is SPAM (Thanks, Microsoft!)
  • From: Mark Kent <mark.kent@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 20:39:07 +0100
  • Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy
  • References: <1213177.lc5b4JDY98@schestowitz.com> <pan.2006.10.02.21.45.47.768000@nntp.sun-meatplow.local> <iie8v3-h0u.ln1@dog.did.it> <1159827080.275087.248430@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> <cb5a04x9te.ln2@supertux.my.domain>
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begin  oe_protect.scr 
Jerry McBride <mcbrides9@xxxxxxxxxxx> espoused:
> Larry Qualig wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Roy Culley wrote:
>>> begin  risky.vbs
>>> <pan.2006.10.02.21.45.47.768000@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
>>> Meat Plow <meat@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes:
>>> > On Mon, 02 Oct 2006 22:29:59 +0100, Roy Schestowitz Has Frothed:
>>> >
>>> >> Subject:      [News] 64.4% of E-mail is SPAM (Thanks, Microsoft!)
>>> >> From:         Roy Schestowitz <newsgroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> >> Reply-To:     newsgroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> >> Newsgroups:   comp.os.linux.advocacy
>>> >> Date:         Mon, 02 Oct 2006 22:29:59 +0100
>>> >>
>>> >> Old spammers learn new tricks
>>> >>
>>> >> ,----[ Quote ]
>>> >> | Spam Bot operations are increasing in particularly in South American
>>> >> | countries where it is the favoured method of distributing bank
>>> >> | trojans and phishing scams.
>>> >> `----
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Zombie PCs spew out 80% of spam
>>> >
>>>
>>> > That's retransmitted by 'nix mx servers.
>>>
>>> Enlighten us as to how many servers retransmit an average email? Your
>>> knowledge of how 'mx servers' work is eagerly awaited.
>>>
>>> The cost of filtering spam and other nasty email payloads sent by
>>> winbot systems is enormous. The solution is to fix this problem at the
>>> source of this crap not at the recipient end.
>> 
>> The better solution is to fix the underlying protocol so that spam
>> can't be sent. 
> 
> There you go... Microsoft thinking at its finest! Rather than fix the root
> problem... crappy windows os's... try and gigger the protocol to cover up
> the os's fault... and in the process twist the protocol in such a manner
> that it only runs on windows and... OOPPPSSSSS.... we can't publish the
> spec, it's proprietary...
> 
> Yeah... right...
> 
> 

Of course, Roy C's question regarding MX is highly pertinent.  I, too,
would be happy to be enlightened regarding this new use of MX machines.

> 
> 
> 
>> Assuming that the story is accurate and that zombies 
>> really do send 80% of the spam, this means that the remaining 20%
>> (still a large number) is somehow being sent legitimately. If all
>> zombie PC's were to vanish then spammers would switch to using this
>> "20% method" and continue sending their spam.
>> 
>> The current protocols were developed back when there were a couple of
>> hundred guys on the net and spam wasn't even conceived of. The better
>> solution is to update the mail protocols and how mail is distributed
>> over the net such that spam can't be sent - period.
> 


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| Mark Kent   --   mark at ellandroad dot demon dot co dot uk  |
Of course you can't flap your arms and fly to the moon.  After a while you'd
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