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Re: Is the O/S (and Native Applications) Front Being Abandoned?

__/ [ Rex Ballard ] on Thursday 12 October 2006 22:13 \__

> Roy Schestowitz wrote:
>> Ballmer: "The most important thing is the Live platform"
>> ,----[ Quote ]
>> | With Windows Vista and Office 2007 nearing completion, one would be
>> | inclined to believe that those two products are currently the most
>> | important topics at Microsoft right now. But according to Steve Ballmer,
>> | that's not the case. If the focus isn't on Vista or Office, then where
>> | is it?
>> `----
>> http://arstechnica.com/journals/microsoft.ars/2006/10/11/5591
> I found this quote interesting:
> In August, there were 40 known Windows Live services, and the number
> has kept growing. "We're in a transition to software that is live. It
> will be click to run, like a Web site," said the Microsoft CEO.

A couple of days ago I met a friend and ex-colleague who uses Windows Live
(under IE7 beta). Click and run?!?! *LOL* Oh, no. The guy kept complaining
about how utterly slow it was (over 100MBit/sec Ethernet).

> Let's see now, go to an online service, click, and an application pops
> up ready to run.  And you'll have 40 such applications.
> This sounds a great deal like Linspire's marketing strategy. Or Cygwin,
> or even Linux.

Isn't Linspire delivering software for installation (native) in this way? At
least they can tailor content (and patch) at their end, which means that CNR
bugs (now Open Source) can be mended immediately.

> All of these options can give you up to a few THOUSAND applications
> that are "click and run" to install.
> Unfortunately, it also sounds a whole lot like ActiveX controls.  Click
> the link, and in seconds your computer has downloaded an executable
> program, with all rights and accesses, and then executes.  Nice of it's
> something like Adobe Acrobat, or Flash.  Not so good if it's sky,
> melissa, nimda, bagel, on one of the other 250,000 "script kiddie
> specials" that runs amok in your computer, trying to help itself to
> your most private and confidential information.  And of course, sending
> lots of e-mails to all of your friends, families, and business
> associates - who might end up putting the automated spam blocker on
> you.

...And on /us/. I share the SMTP server with a university where the majority
of desktops still run Windows. Machines that scan ports get disconnected
quickly, but damage may have already been done by then. Also see a fairely
recent thread:


,----[ Fragment ]
| Just been receiving messages like (fragment):
| ===
|     SMTP error from remote mail server after MAIL FROM:<<MY ADDRESS>>:
|     host <<REMOTE_MAIL_DAEMON>> [IP ADDRESS]: 553 5.3.0 Message from
| rejected based on external blacklist - See also
| http://www.spamcop.net/bl.shtml
| ===

>> This could open up a door of opportunities for Linux. Google and Yahoo
>> will do their battle on the Web (with a Linux back-end, of course).

I am worried about Live not being compatible with other platforms and Web
browsers. Imagine yourself a user who is locked in inside this world of
"Live this and Live that". Contacts, mail, applications and documents might
be merely inaccessible from non-Windows machines, which immobilises the
users. Windows Vista and IE7 is tightly integrated (though links) to Windows

> The point is that they are also willing to play to the Linux front-end
> as well.  I use my Linux machine to run applications on other servers,
> which provide their graphical interfaces to my screen - and it's almost
> as easy as starting a local application.  XGL provides X11 and OpenGL
> interfaces which give the the option of running X11 applications or
> OpenGL applications on other servers (as well as my own).

I tend to do a lot of stuff over SSH (10/100Mbit connection), so Web-based
software (although I have plenty installed) was never a necessity. As long
as my primary machine is up and running, the issues of mobility needn't be
addressed through the Web browser. There are many other advantages, but I'll
skip on them for brevity.

Best wishes,


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