BearItAll <spam@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> espoused:
> Roy Schestowitz wrote:
>> Opera is probably among the best in this area, but it's proprietary.
> Opera browser for PDAs is very good. The MS Windows browser for PDA has
> alsorts of problems that make it very tricky to use for all except basic
> browsing. It makes no attempt at all to render the page for the PDA screen.
> Sites that require more than one window to work, such as a chat or
> messaging site, don't tend to work on the MS win pda browser at all.
> Wasn't the whole point of using html and pages being rendered at the client
> end meant to be so that the client could control the output for the device
> capabilities? Whether that is a printer or any size screen, it would be
> possible to organise the parts of the page to best suit the display or
It was the whole point of html that it could be rendered on anything.
This is why the community got frustrated with Netscape when they started
inventing non-standard tags, then later, Microsoft, when they started
inventing a completely non-standard web.
To my mind, everthing ever written should be at least checked on lynx to
to see what it looks like. It's amazing how a good site, even a mainly
graphical one, can be quite usable in lynx, and yet a similar but poor
site can be completely unusable. The BBC's website is an interesting
case in point, in that it has a high-graphics & low-graphics option.
> Opera is very different. First it renders the page for the device and the
> screen you have. So what ever page you go to it is much more comfortable to
> read because there isn't all that nonsence of scrolling left and right up
> and down to try to follow some text or menu. Then, you get Opera's tabbed
> browsing, so flipping between multiple pages is very easy. Then because
> pages will not secretly die in the background, as in the MS one, i.e. a log
> in site that requires you to keep a window open to maintain the login, you
> can log in and use most multi-page web sites. Only one java based site I
> use often doesn't quite work in some areas, in all others functionally I
> can do everything I can do on my desktop. Then add to the praise of Opera
> because they have also kept some of the session capabilities of their
> browser. I find that for the PDA I am even more likely to be on the same
> few sites each time, so Opera opens them all up for me.
My Nokia 770 has Opera on it, and I tend to agree, it works well in this
environment. My Psion 5mx (long since fallen into disuse) had opera on
it, but getting a reasonable ip connection via the infra red or serial
port wasn't that easy. My Nokia 6630 phone has opera on it, although
you can't do a huge amount with it, as the phone interface isn't
brilliant, and the display isn't all that good either. It probably
needs re-flashing, but as I don't use it that much, it's not a problem.
The N770 browser is excellent, although if you look on the maemo site,
there's at least one other browser been ported to the 770. Along with a
stack of other things.
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