Larry Qualig wrote:
> Roy Schestowitz wrote:
> > Mainframe programming and open source -- Where's the beef?
> >
> > ,----[ Quote ]
> > | Open-source advocates often cite lower software prices, "power to the
> > | masses", or avoidance of vendor lock-in. However, a key value of open
> > | source is the ability of IT shops to tap into open source development and
> > | its methodologies to enhance applications. Open source and collaborative
> > | programming not only leverage programming power outside the enterprise
> > | or overseas, but also improve the quality of in-house proprietary
> > | programming, making not only business-critical applications but
> > | entire platforms much more effective.
> > |
> > | [...]
> > |
> > | Open source is steadily increasing its presence, from the bottom of
> > | the software stack up. Linux (operating systems), Netscape Navigator
> > | (browsers), and Apache (application servers) are now being joined by
> > | office automation suites, development tools (Eclipse), databases (mySQL,
> > | PostgreSQL, and Berkeley DB [now part of Oracle]), and now data
> > | integration tools (Jitterbit, aimed at bringing data integration to
> > | medium-sized firms). Developers -- especially open-source ones -- can
> > | use these solutions as class libraries that they can invoke in order
> > | to handle infrastructure across platforms.
> > `----
> >
> > http://searchdatacenter.techtarget.com/tip/0,289483,sid80_gci1215521,00.html
>
> Companies who buy and run mainframes are not looking to save a few
> dollars in software costs. If that were the case they would use a *nix
> machine in place of the mainframe. They spend a million plus on a
> mainframe for nine-9's uptime and reliability (99.9999999%) and for the
> benefits that something like zOS gives them.
>
> If they wanted to run Linux they wouldn't buy a mainframe in the first
> place.
Wrong again Larry, Our current environment is Z/VM version 5.2. SLES
version 9. Z/OS version 1.7 and VSE/ESA version 2.7. Our current
hardware is Z800 2066 002. And we have a new Z9 sitting on the floor
waiting replace our Z800.
Our shop is using LINUX for production work NOW. I know DFS, FLATHEAD,
BILLWG or yourself will whine about the market share of LINUX on the
desktop. Or accuse me of lying. The plan truth at least in this shop is
that we would not trust MICROSOFT to keep anything secure. We do have a
VERY good uptime on all our systems and LINUX plays an important roll
in this shop as a whole. So mainframes not using LINUX... That's a
crock! So you like the above gang of WIN-NUT-SACKS are wrong as usual.
I also like to add that I dislike being called names by folks that hide
behind the internet. So unless any of you have the "NADS" to come out
from behind your alias you still prove what the folks here in COLA say.
You all are TROLLS that are afraid to really stand behind what you say!
That goes extra for you DFS, next time you come to Denver look me up. I
am sure you would find the conversation lively, the beer cold, my wit
sharp and your nose flat! Bring fishface with ya, my dog loves fish.
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