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Re: Open Source and Mainframes Hand-in-Glove

  • Subject: Re: Open Source and Mainframes Hand-in-Glove
  • From: "OLDDINO" <Vince.Porch@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: 15 Sep 2006 09:39:26 -0700
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Larry Qualig wrote:
> OLDDINO wrote:
> > Larry Qualig wrote:
> > > OLDDINO wrote:
> > > > Larry Qualig wrote:
> > > > > Roy Schestowitz wrote:
> > > > > > Mainframe programming and open source -- Where's the beef?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ,----[ Quote ]
> > > > > > | Open-source advocates often cite lower software prices, "power to the
> > > > > > | masses", or avoidance of vendor lock-in. However, a key value of open
> > > > > > | source is the ability of IT shops to tap into open source development and
> > > > > > | its methodologies to enhance applications. Open source and collaborative
> > > > > > | programming not only leverage programming power outside the enterprise
> > > > > > | or overseas, but also improve the quality of in-house proprietary
> > > > > > | programming, making not only business-critical applications but
> > > > > > | entire platforms much more effective.
> > > > > > |
> > > > > > | [...]
> > > > > > |
> > > > > > | Open source is steadily increasing its presence, from the bottom of
> > > > > > | the software stack up. Linux (operating systems), Netscape Navigator
> > > > > > | (browsers), and Apache (application servers) are now being joined by
> > > > > > | office automation suites, development tools (Eclipse), databases (mySQL,
> > > > > > | PostgreSQL, and Berkeley DB [now part of Oracle]), and now data
> > > > > > | integration tools (Jitterbit, aimed at bringing data integration to
> > > > > > | medium-sized firms). Developers -- especially open-source ones -- can
> > > > > > | use these solutions as class libraries that they can invoke in order
> > > > > > | to handle infrastructure across platforms.
> > > > > > `----
> > > > > >
> > > > > > http://searchdatacenter.techtarget.com/tip/0,289483,sid80_gci1215521,00.html
> > > > >
> > > > > Companies who buy and run mainframes are not looking to save a few
> > > > > dollars in software costs. If that were the case they would use a *nix
> > > > > machine in place of the mainframe. They spend a million plus on a
> > > > > mainframe for nine-9's uptime and reliability (99.9999999%) and for the
> > > > > benefits that something like zOS gives them.
> > > > >
> > > > > If they wanted to run Linux they wouldn't buy a mainframe in the first
> > > > > place.
> > > >
> > > > Wrong again Larry, Our current environment is Z/VM version 5.2. SLES
> > > > version 9. Z/OS version 1.7 and VSE/ESA version 2.7. Our current
> > > > hardware is Z800 2066 002. And we have a new Z9 sitting on the floor
> > > > waiting replace our  Z800.
> > > >
> > > > Our shop is using LINUX for production work NOW. I know DFS, FLATHEAD,
> > > > BILLWG  or yourself  will whine about the market share of LINUX on the
> > > > desktop. Or accuse me of lying. The plan truth at least in this shop is
> > > > that we would not trust MICROSOFT to keep anything secure. We do have a
> > > > VERY good uptime on all our systems and LINUX plays an important roll
> > > > in this shop as a whole. So mainframes not using LINUX... That's a
> > > > crock! So you like the above gang of WIN-NUT-SACKS are wrong as usual.
> > >
> > > Good for you. Our mainframe (uname -a = OS/390 MVS16 16.00 03 2066)
> > > runs zOS and the majority of our customers who run mainframes don't buy
> > > a mainframe so that they can run Linux on it. They buy mainframes and
> > > pay the price of a mainframe in order to run a mainframe OS on it. If
> > > the ultimate goal is to run Linux then there are much better ways of
> > > doing so than buying a mainframe.
> > >
> > > Is this always the case? Of course not. It's a large world and you're
> > > bound to see plenty of exceptions. But the "flagship OS" (IBM's words,
> > > not mine) for their mainframes is zOS and not Linux.
> > >
> > >
> > > > I also like to add that I dislike being called names by folks that hide
> > > > behind the internet. So unless any of you have the "NADS"  to come out
> > > > from behind your alias you still prove what the folks here in COLA say.
> > > > You all are TROLLS that are afraid to really stand behind what you say!
> > > > That goes extra for you DFS, next time you come to Denver look me up. I
> > > > am sure you would find the conversation lively, the beer cold,  my wit
> > > > sharp and your nose flat! Bring fishface with ya, my dog  loves fish.
> > >
> > > Oh look. Another insecure twirp who' suddenly a internet tough guy.
> >
> > Larry I don't need the internet to be a tough guy. So why don't you
> > come here and call me a twirp to my face. Oh I know why---- your too
> > scared!
>
> For starters it's "you're too scared" and not "your" but who cares. The
> fact is that you have no idea how utterly stupid you sound.
>
> Only a complete idiot would say something like this. And lord behold...


Don't sing it! Bring it!  Or at least post under your real name you
coward! Oh and I leave little erorrs is posts so small brains like
your's will have something to complain about. See it worked like a
champ!


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