Yea.
Peter Kohlmann, Roy Schestowich and Mark Kent should have their own
sections.
Also, there should be a section on Roy Culley's fake stats.
On Sun, 24 Sep 2006 18:10:34 +0200, Hadron Quark wrote:
>
> Some suggestions on the first sections (1 - 6.1) to save people coming here for
> help. Most grepped from Peter KÃhlmann's and Roy's posts.
>
> "Scott Williams" <swilliams5656@xxxxxxxxxxx> writes:
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>> + +
>> + C.O.L.A. Newcomer FAQ and Primer +
>> + Edition: 21 - 9/24/06 +
>> + Edition: 22 - 9/24/06 +
>> + Group: comp.os.linux.advocacy +
>> + +
>> + Copyright (c) 2002-2006 Linux Reality Team +
>> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>
>> Welcome to comp.os.linux.advocacy, otherwise known as cola. This
>> FAQ will try to address most of the issues regarding Linux and
>> this group. Unlike the other FAQs, this one will try to be as
>> realistic as possible. If you want the straight information from
>> real people, continue reading. If you would like to be told what
>> you want to hear, or read a bunch of misinformation that you will
>> regret later as you find things don't work as they should, feel free
>> to read one of the other "FAQS" in here.
>>
>> OK, on to the info! ADDED NEW SECTION BELOW!
>>
>> Here's a list of some frequently asked and answered question here
>> and elsewhere that you may find useful in your quest to try linux.
>> Read these carefully before you decide to invest time in Linux, you
>> may find that you have better things you can do instead.
>>
>> SECTION ONE - INSTALLATION
>> --------------------------
>>
>> 1.1 Q: I heard linux was easy to install, is it?
>> A: Of course it is you retard. RTFM or fuck off back to windoze.
>>
>> 1.2 Q: Once I get it installed, then what?
>> A: Then you get the joy of making sure everything is configured
>> right. Plan on a minimum of two hours per device to get it to
>> work. That's if the device is even supported. Which it
>> probably is but you're too stupid to figure it out. Go back to
>> windoze you loser.
>>
>> 1.3 Q: What happens if I'm in the middle of an install and the
>> installation freezes or just stops?
>> A: You get to reboot and start all over again. :) This happens
>> every so often with Linux. It seems like it's buggy install
>> routines or something. Ain't Linux grand? :) Because you didnt
>> do your homework you fucking nOOb. Of course you need to check
>> your HW is supported first. Which it is. Err. Because all HW is.
>>
>> 1.4 Q: What's the deal?! I installed Linux and it took up almost 2GB
>> hard drive space!
>> A: The Linux distros usually install a LOT of never-used programs
>> on the default install. You can pick and choose what you want,
>> but good luck figuring out what programs are needed and what is
>> useless, obscure tools. Linux usually installs stuff like 10
>> different editors, 12 different mail clients, and so on. So
>> basically you have choice. And choice between 28 buggy
>> newsreaders is better than 2 good ones. Simple. Now bog off and
>> RTFM you thicky.
>>
>> (more to come...)
>>
>> SECTION TWO - CONFIGURATION
>> ---------------------------
>>
>> 2.1 Q: What's with all these cryptic files?
>> A: All of Linux is configured with cryptic text files. Some of
>> the more user-friendly distros have configuration utilities
>> that claim to do it for you, but success with these works
>> sometimes and other times don't, so sometimes you have to
>> edit them by hand. With Linux's spotty reliability in UI
>> programming, you might as well get used to it. Wizards are for
>> windoze idiots. text files are easy. Just RTFM - else fuck off
>> back to windows you wintroll. Wizards are the spawn of the
>> devil. YOu should learn each & every one of sendmails
>> configuration options just to be considered a Linux nOOb.
>>
>> 2.2 Q: What is killall, HUP, ls, cat, rm, which, etc and why are
>> these programs telling me to do them? Arggg!!
>> A: These are command line programs that do things within the
>> system. It's what makes Linux a powerful OS for those that
>> are experienced with it. But it's also what makes it a pain
>> in the arse to use and inefficient as a desktop system. Who
>> wants to type all the time when they can just click?! You never
>> need to use them though asswipe. Using Konqueror you can do all
>> this apparently. Even if you use Gnome. Fuck off back to
>> Windoze you thicky.
>>
>> (more to come...)
>>
>> SECTION THREE - APPLICATIONS
>> ----------------------------
>>
>> 3.1 Q: Where can I get some programs to run on linux?
>> A: Good question. Because Linux doesn't have a large user base
>> on the desktop,(I think it's about 0.24%, less than 1%)
>> companies that make software won't write their programs for
>> Linux. There's a lot of community created programs out there,
>> and some are fairly good, but those are few and far between.
>> Most of the Linux software that tries to mimic it's windows
>> counterpart is substandard. It's usually slow and buggy and
>> early in development. But there is a huge choice. Try Roy's
>> "free search engine" you windiot. Its real OSS - nothing to pay
>> and it doesnt work. http://www.iuron.com.
>>
>> 3.2 Q: I tried to install an RPM but I got 'failed dependencies', what
>> is that?
>> A: That's Linux's version of DLL hell. Different versions and
>> distros use different libraries. So unlike windows where
>> programs will run on many different versions, Linux programs
>> will fail if they're not made for your specific
>> version. Gah. Its so easy to recompile your kernel and
>> stuff. Shearman does it all the time. You have to be a retard
>> if you cant do it. Fuck off back to windoze you sheep.
>>
>> 3.3 Q: What is compiling and configure, make and make install? And
>> what is a makefile?
>> A: This is a way to build the programs from the source code
>> under Linux. When the question above fails, you can always
>> build it yourself. The advantage is that it works most of
>> the time. The disadvantage is that it takes forever to build
>> large programs, you need to know some cryptic commands and
>> you have to do all this on a command line. Unlike Windows
>> where you just double click and you are done. Choice.
>>
>> 3.4 Q: Can I go to my local store to buy any Linux applications?
>> A: Not really. You can buy Linux itself at various stores. But
>> not too many commercial companies make applications for Linux,
>> there's no profit in it with 0.24% of the desktop market. But
>> the programs out there are really innovative : even if they dont
>> work. Did you know, for example, that even the gnome networking UI
>> doesnt work properly? The most basic of all UIs to get a system
>> working and its fucked. Thats real choice! You just get the source
>> & fix it yourself! There's choice. If you dont like it or are toos
>> tupid to fix a Gnome UI app then just fuck off back to Windoze you
>> retarded windiots. What programs its ALL THERE. Even games. We
>> have pong and tetris as standard and my mates cousin got HL1
>> working in Wine. And 3 games are in OpenGL which Linux uses. Jesus
>> you fucking cretin - cant you see you are a windiot?
>>
>> (more to come...)
>>
>> SECTION FOUR - SPEED ISSUES
>> ---------------------------
>>
>> 4.1 Q: Why is Linux so slow?
>> A: Linux is built on the technology of the old UNIX OS's. Even
>> the graphical user interface of Linux is a separate program that
>> is the same type they used back in the older UNIX days. So
>> working with old technology will give you the old technology
>> responsiveness. Also, a lot of the GUI's, although nice to look
>> at, are still not mature. Using them is slow and sluggish
>> compared to, say, Windows.
>>
>> (more to come...)
>>
>> SECTION FIVE - CONSISTENCY
>> --------------------------
>>
>> 5.1 Q: Why are the windows different looking?
>> A: Since Linux isn't built by one company, group or have any
>> governing body, programs and interfaces can vary dramatically.
>> You can have everything from the nice look of KDE, to something
>> as ugly as TK and everything in between. You'll usually see some
>> varying UI stile in Linux. Choice giving us benefits again!
>>
>> 5.2 Q: Should I buy Suse Linux?
>> A: No. They make it difficult to get it for free. All the other
>> distros provide free ISO's to download. Suse is the only one
>> that doesn't provide them but instead has a FTP install that's
>> hard to get to work. Why should they make it easy? The more
>> people that can't get the download to work have to spend $80
>> or more for the boxed set. And on top of all that although
>> it might have a few more user friendly tools, it's still the
>> same base Linux system that's in development and that all the
>> other distros are using. In other words, they're all on about
>> the same level of struggling to catch up to Windows, so you're
>> not going to find any earth-shattering features in one compared
>> to another. Choice. etc. Innovation. Except for the fact there
>> isnt any. If you cant deal with the wrong howto not working on
>> your distro then I suggest are too stupid to use Linux and should
>> fuck off back to windoze you retard.
>>
>> (more to come...)
>>
>> SECTION SIX - LINUX COMMUNITY
>> -----------------------------
>>
>> 6.1 Q: What is RTFM?!
>> A: This is an acronym for Read The Fuc*ing Manual. This is a
>> common
>> answer you'll get when asking for help in the Linux community.
>> It's meant to make you feel inadequate while boating the Linux
>> persons ego at the same time. See, Linux enthusiasts consider
>> themselves to be guru like and above helping out the simple
>> newbie. You have to earn your respect by spending countless
>> hours becoming a kernel hacker before you're worthy of getting
>> any help.
>>
>> 6.2 Q: Why does everyone think they are better than you when using
>> Linux?
>> A: Same as above. When people use Linux they believe since it
>> takes
>> a little more knowledge to use Linux, they are technically
>> superior,
>> and see themselves as an elite group that doesn't have time for
>> the
>> pathetic little Windows people.
>>
>> (more to come...)
>>
>> SECTION SEVEN - LINUX ADVOCACY, HELPING OR HURTING?
>> ---------------------------------------------------
>>
>> 7.1 Q: Everyone in here says linux is perfect, why would they say that
>> if it isn't?
>> A: We really don't know. Maybe they've used Linux so long that
>> they've gotten used to it. Some of these people haven't used
>> Windows in years so they are comparing Linux to the last windows
>> they used, maybe Windows 3.1 or 95.
>>
>> 7.2 Q: Why does everyone call you a troll when you ask something that
>> questions linux?
>> A: Most of the people here in C.O.L.A. think of Linux more like a
>> religion than an OS. They mostly are MS haters and feel that
>> Linux is the greatest thing to ever hit computing. So when
>> someone questions Linux it's like questioning their belief
>> system. Instead of looking at it with some logic and reasonable
>> judgment, they will lash out at you can't claim your are a troll
>> or a paid MS supporter.
>>
>> 7.3 Q: Why does everyone <PLONK> you if you question Linux?
>> A: Fairly similar to above, Linux advocates can not argue their
>> point rationally. So to make it look like you are under them or
>> you are not worth it, and at the same time find an easy way out
>> of having to prove themselves, they will <PLONK> you.
>>
>> (more to come...)
>>
>> SECTION EIGHT - LINUX EVANGELISM, ZEALOTS
>> -----------------------------------------
>>
>> 8.1 Q: There are some people that call this FAQ lies and seem to treat
>> it
>> like it's a conspiracy against them, and post all sorts of links
>> to
>> anti-microsoft articles. Why are they reacting so strongly?
>> A: The people that are reacting so strongly are most likely the
>> Linux
>> extremists that believe everything negitive that is said about
>> Linux
>> comes from Microsoft. Like many cult-like groups, the people
>> that
>> belong to them don't have the ability to see things rationally
>> or
>> outside of their view. If someone replies to the FAQ, or
>> anything
>> questioning a non-favorable view on Linux, that seems a little
>> "over the edge", do a google search on the person
>> (http://groups.google.com/) and look at his/her posting history
>> then
>> decide for yourself if the person is credible or not.
>>
>> (more to come...)
>>
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