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Re: [Roy Schestowitz Lies Again] Ex-Softie Expects Millions to Use His Web Operating System (was: [Erik Funkenbusch spins again] Ex-Softie Expects Millions to Use His Web Operating System)

  • Subject: Re: [Roy Schestowitz Lies Again] Ex-Softie Expects Millions to Use His Web Operating System (was: [Erik Funkenbusch spins again] Ex-Softie Expects Millions to Use His Web Operating System)
  • From: AB <fardblossom@xxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2007 12:07:44 -0500
  • Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy
  • Organization: Sometimes
  • References: <4137595.KndCL4nHZe@schestowitz.com> <1qe3r85rjrzo3.dlg@funkenbusch.com> <1632956.SDjpqu7RBD@schestowitz.com> <mtf1f4-dsj.ln1@ellandroad.demon.co.uk> <6sxek84zxbo0.dlg@funkenbusch.com> <25udnU6RvqMPer3bnZ2dnUVZ_o3inZ2d@comcast.com> <pan.2007.04.14.15.17.11.722008@tiscali.co.uk> <83a7f4-na9.ln1@news.harry.net> <pan.2007.04.14.16.34.37.326265@tiscali.co.uk>
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On 2007-04-14, Kier <vallon@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> claimed:
> On Sat, 14 Apr 2007 10:54:48 -0500, AB wrote:
>
>> On 2007-04-14, Kier <vallon@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> claimed:
>>> On Sat, 14 Apr 2007 09:39:14 -0500, Linonut wrote:
>>>
>>>> After takin' a swig o' grog, Erik Funkenbusch belched out this bit o' wisdom:
>> 
>>>>> Roy manufactured the headline.  He made it up.  He lied.
>>>> 
>>>> Pot-kettle-black.
>>>
>>> A lie is a lie. If it's wrong for Erik, it's wrong for Roy.
>> 
>> It's doubly wrong for a liar to call others liars until/unless they can
>> take responisbility for their own lies.
>
> Oh, no doubt. But don't excuse a lie by Roy, while attacking someone else
> for lying. I don't just mean Erik. Being Linux advocates should *not* mean
> we can lie and get away with it.

OK. Back to the premise. Where did Roy lie? If the troll is going to be
believed, there must be some evidence that what they're saying has some
truth.

I've seen evidence in this thread (and I've not been following it that
closely, but it was the exact same headline from another article that
was about the exact same thing) that shows he didn't lie. But the lying
trolls go ahead and accuse him of it anyway. I've seen nothing to
support that accusation except that they wouldn't accept any other
explanation.

When a troll yells about something, the onus of proof is on the troll
once they've established themselves as liars and/or shills (Is there
one who hasn't?), Taking the word of liars like Erik and MIDL is
dangerous or, at best, ill-advised.

Now, maybe Roy should have used the other article if he was going to
use that headline. That's another matter. But using the headline from
one article that's says essentially the same thing as the quoted
article, except for the headline, isn't the type of thing that lies are
made of.

-- 
Whip me. Beat me. Windows ME(tm).

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