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Re: [Roy Schestowitz Lies Again] Windows Gets Another 'Hack' to Fix Inherently-insecure System (was: [News] Windows Gets Another 'Hack' to Fix Inherently-insecure System)

__/ [ Erik Funkenbusch ] on Saturday 28 April 2007 08:45 \__

> On Sat, 28 Apr 2007 03:52:30 +0100, Roy Schestowitz wrote:
> 
>> Microsoft mulling major changes to ward off .ANI-type flaws
>> 
>> ,----[ Quote ]
>>| During the creation of Windows Vista, more than 140,000 unsafe API calls
>>| were banned and Howard hinted that one more -- "memcpy" -- might be
>>| added to the list for new code coming out of Redmond.
>>| 
>>| [...]
>>| 
>>| ""The SDL is not perfect, nor will it ever ever be perfect," Howard
>>| argued. "We still have work to do, and this bug shows that. We have
>>| a new -GS pragma that adds more stack cookies; we?ve updated our
>>| fuzz tools; we will pay closer attention to exception handlers that
>>| could mask vulnerabilities, and we will investigate the impact of
>>| banning "memcpy" for new code," he added.
>> `----
>> 
>> http://blogs.zdnet.com/security/?p=181
> 
> I'm struggling to find *ANY* way that you could possibly not be lying here.
> This article talks about Microsoft's software development lifecycle, and
> how they are taking steps by barring the use of functions that have a
> history of unsafe use, as well as various tools to help identify flawed
> code.  Yet your title says that Microsoft is issuing some hack patch to fix
> windows.
> 
> They're two *ENTIRELY* different concepts.  One is a proactive stance taken
> by professional developers (OpenBSD uses a similar approach), and the other
> is creating a crappy piece of code.
> 
> Do you not even read the articles you link to?  How do you justify
> fabricating these subject lines?

Subject lines modified to get past filters, eh?

Do you consider the following measure a step towards security? Or is it just
a workaround for flawed design?

Program Names govern admin rights in Vista

,----[ Quote ]
| "This is a little bit silly: just name the installer something
| else, and Vista lets it through," Chess said. He added that
| although the feature is imperfect and inconvenient, it's
| "better than nothing".
`----

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/04/23/vista_program_naming_oddness/


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