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[News] The Latest About SCO and MicroSCOft's History of Crimes Against DR-DOR Linux

  • Subject: [News] The Latest About SCO and MicroSCOft's History of Crimes Against DR-DOR Linux
  • From: Roy Schestowitz <newsgroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 02:08:37 +0100
  • Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy
  • Organization: Netscape / schestowitz.com
  • User-agent: KNode/0.10.4
Novell and SCO divided on next legal steps

,----[ Quote ]
| The legal differences between Novell and SCO are such that the companies 
| cannot agree on the effects of the judge's recent decision on their ongoing 
| slander of title court case.  
`----

http://www.cbronline.com/article_news.asp?guid=79C74A5E-495A-4585-88B1-DE1303010D0D

Were there disclaimers?

,----[ Quote ]
|  Matthew Aslett, in his article "If this is true SCO’s execs are in BIG 
|  trouble," quoted Webbink, and he tried to verify: 
| 
|     This would be easy to verify if the audio files were still on 
|     http://ir.sco.com/ but a quick look didn’t show up anything. 
| 
| Well, it's Groklaw to the rescue. 
`----

http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20070821015020947

SCO, Linux, and Microsoft in the History of OS: 2000s

,----[ Quote ]
| The difference between SCO's lawsuit against Linux and Caldera's earlier 
| lawsuit against Microsoft was that Caldera had a smoking gun, a dead body, a 
| motive, and an opportunity all documented against Microsoft. There was no 
| case to argue; DR-DOS had its hands tied and was publicly shot in the face by 
| Microsoft in broad daylight.     
|  
| SCO had nothing more than accusations against Linux, and refused to offer any 
| reason to believe any of its claims. Over the next five years, SCO argued 
| that Linux users owed it royalty payments for borrowing lines of code that it 
| refused to present any evidence of, and warned companies that any use of 
| Linux could expose them to expensive legal problems.    
| 
| [...]
| 
| SCO needed more money to maintain its years of war on Linux, so Microsoft 
| donated millions of dollars in “Unix licensing” to help SCO continue its 
| litigation against Microsoft’s competitors, including IBM and Novell.   
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http://www.roughlydrafted.com/RD/RDM.Tech.Q3.07/320486BD-356A-4129-A240-919491B024E3.html


Related:

To: davidcol
Subject: RE: message
Date: Mon, 10 Feb 92 08:51:10 PST

what the guy is supposed to do is feel uncomfortable, and when he has 
bugs, suspect that the problem is dr-dos and then go out and buy ms-dos, 
or decide not to take the risk for the other machines he has to buy for 
in the office.

..

 From bradsi; Mon Feb 10 10:50:05 1992
To: steveb
Subject: Re: the message
Date: Mon, 10 Feb 92 10:50:05 PST

i am saying that we should either:

b) put a kind gentle message in setup. like an incompatible tsr message, 
but not everytime the user starts windows.

..

the most sensible thing from a development standpoint is to continue to 
build dependencies on msdos into windows.

http://edge-op.org/iowa/www.iowaconsumercase.org/010807/PLEX_3506.pdf











Friday, Septembeer 22, 1989
Mr. Leonard Liu
President
Acer Incorporated

I'm sure Alan Sugar would not mind me tellling you about his decision for
Amstrad. He decided to stay with MS-DOS (they use the disk version). In 1985
when he first came out with his low end 512k machines, he shipped both DRI's
then current product and MS-DOS: his market research showed that virtually all
users chose to use the Microsoft product, rathe then risk the compatibility
questions thet DRI's operating system products raise. His more recent machines
dropped the 
DRI products entirely .. It only takes a couple of reports about
non-compatibility to give the kiss of death to a PC: we've seen that on the
hardware side as well as in the operating system area.

http://edge-op.org/iowa/www.iowaconsumercase.org/011207/PX_9923.pdf







tonyka tests DR-DOS 6.0 ..

From: tonyka Thu Sep 19 18:44:04 1991
To: tomle
Cc: brentk; dosdev; jefflo; vangard
Subject: DR-DOS 6.0 Testing (9/19)

DR DOS beats us on a 386 system by 12,560 bytes conventional; their 
EMM386 is a combined XMS provider and expanded memory manager. I don't 
understand why MS DOS only gives 95kb UMB; maybe I need to include some 
region on emm386 line.

..

1) Please include All bugs in DR-DOS that are not in MS-DOS from Intel 
TESTMEM test suite Boundary test:
        Allocating more (expanded memory) pages than available in system
        EMM did not return the expected results (returned 12 instead of 9A).

DTK 386 cold boot/hang problem:
After installing DR 6 on this machine, cold boot always results in a 
"Cannot load file". Press a key to retry." When press a key, the machine 
will boot fine. Warm boot always work without this problem.

Also there's intermittent hang after exiting EDITOR. It hung on me twice 
today. Haven't seen these problems happen on another machine.

Warm boot with HIDOS.SYS installed
        gives "Warning: Address line A20 already enabled."

..

2) Anything you did not like about DR-DOS

DR DOS reports version as 3.31; no lie table and programs won't run.

Their EDITOR looks antique (compared to ours); haven't used WORDSTAR for 
ages.

..

3) Anything you like about DR-DOS that we should add to future MS-DOS 
versions

DR MEM program output looks sharp: layout is clearer and offers more 
info than ours.

DOSBOOK online help looks pretty fancy and helpful.

DR SETUP lets user tune system after installation. This concept is good 
but their implementation is not useful enough.

..

Privileged Material Redacted


http://edge-op.org/iowa/www.iowaconsumercase.org/011607/0000/PX00963.pdf

 From brade Fri Sep 20 17:31:57 1991
To: bradsi
Cc: bradc; braddir; dosmktg; lizsi; w-carrin; w-maria
Subject: PC Week and DR DOS
Date: Fri Sep 20 17:32:48 PDT 1991

Carrine's great work got us the oppurtunity to feed pc week some info on 
where to look for bugs with dr dos. I have had a couple of conversations 
with lenny bailes who is helping with the ms-dos 5 versus dr-dos 5 
evaluation process.

Today tom and i talked to him. on the negative side i probably brought 
up one two many things for him to look at. it is difficult to 
appropriately and professionally try and trash your competitor. also on 
the negative side, lenny clearly seems to be a dr dos fan. to be fair i 
think he is sincere and is trying to be balanced.

also on the negative side he did tells us that under 1 meg dr dos 6 was 
better than ms-dos 5 on 7 out of 10 machines they tested. no real 
details but i think the differences will be small.

on the positive side they did themselves find some of the setup problems 
(such as poor updating to config.sys) and he has passed on tp the pc 
weeks labs some of these configurations we suggested they look at that 
we uncovered with dr dos 5. he was also intrigued by some of the data 
from yesterday's dr-dos 6 test, in particular tom's problems when he 
entered a ton of nested directory names.

http://edge-op.org/iowa/www.iowaconsumercase.org/011607/0000/PX00964.pdf







>From bradsi Fri Sep 91 10:01:22 PDT
To bradc; jimail; johnlu; mikemur; paulma; russs; steveb; tonya
Cc: mackm
Subject: dri/novell/ibm

.. drdos has problems running windows today.
And I assume will have more problems in the futire.

..

To: bradsi
Subject: RE: dri/novell/ibm
Date Fri Sep 27 18:26:52 PDT 1991

You should make sure it has problems in the future :)

jim

..

>From bradc Fri Sep 27 18:35:22 1991
To: bradsi
Cc: bradc; richab; richf; loaya
Subject: FW: FYI - Windows message
Date Fri Sep 27 18:36:31 PDT 1991

..

I asked to have this forwarded to me.

Two cents from richf and I;

1) The check for dr dos better be perfect, otherwize you could be in a heep of 
trouble ..

..

4) The PC-DOS statement is problematic if ibm calls dr dos pc dos 6 so we think 
that we have to not state ms-dos or pc-dos directly

..

we can get the message out that they don't work with windows without seeming so 
manipulative. We need to say the right thing so that people get the right 
message - we are helping users by giving them info that windows is only tsted 
on ms-dos.

http://edge-op.org/iowa/www.iowaconsumercase.org/011607/0000/PX00978.pdf




REDACTED

From: Brad Silverberg
To: Jon Kecbejian
Cc: Brad Chase; SYS MS-DOS Marketing Team
Subject: RE: Sears - Navy Lapheld Contract Win
Date: Monday, June 01, 1992 2:57 PM

excellent work

From: Jon Kecbejian
To: Brad Silverberg
Cc: Brad Chase; SYS MS-DOS Marketing Team
Subject: Sears - Navy Lapbeld Contract Win
Date: Monday, June 01, 1992 1:57 PM

Debbie Raa (MS Federal Sales Rep) and I called on Sears Business Systems 
- Federal Group in their Washington, DC, offices on May 13, 1992. Sears 
had recently won the Navy LapHeld contract (25,000 to 75,00 PCs per year 
for three years - the only notebook award in the Federal government) 
which included DR-DOS. Debbie and I met with Sears' technical leads to 
discuss DR-DOS support issues (versus MS-DOS) and the future Windows 
compatibility in an effort to get Sears to replace DR_DOS 6 with MS-DOS 
5. Sears said they were going with DR-DOS unless DR cannot abide by the 
terms of the Navy contract. Sears was content to let DR assume the risk 
of Windows compatibility.

Debbie Rae and Brett Swartz found a clause in the navy contract 
requiring compatibility with Windows and got the Navy to insist Sears 
honor it. After Debbie and I made clear to Sears DR-DOS and Windows 
compatibility would always be a major issue, as well as DR's regular 
"business" updates for which Sears is responsible, Sears included a 
clause guaranteeing DR-DOS would be compatible with Windows now and in 
the future in Sears' agreement with DR. DR's lawyers refused to sign the 
contract.

In the course of a week Don Hardwick and I were in daily contact with 
Sears to address immediate support and education issues (MS-DOS (JonK) 
and Windows (TyCar)). product needs (creating disk images in 1.44MB 
format so the current Sears packaging could be maintained), and getting 
the OEM agreement signed.

The deal was signed Friday, May 29, with Sears solidly behind MS-DOS and 
already looking to swap the bid applications for Windows and Windows 
applications. Sears expects to sell at least 150,000 PCs over the life 
of this contract to Federal agencies.

Jon

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http://edge-op.org/iowa/www.iowaconsumercase.org/011607/4000/PX04602.pdf

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