In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Linonut
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wrote
on Tue, 18 Dec 2007 11:55:13 -0500
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> * DFS fired off this tart reply:
>
>> Richard Rasker wrote:
>>
>>> You forgot one:
>>>
>>> http://www.angelfire.com/linux/dfs0/ failed w/ 3 errors
>>
>> Talk to angelfire. Plus I don't rail on about MS 'breaking standards' -
>> because they haven't.
>
> Oh. My. God.
>
> Even Netscape broke HTML standards.
>
Somebody hasn't been doing his homework.
<?xml version="1.0"?>
<h:html xmlns:h="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml";>
<h:head>
<h:title>Welcome To XHTML</h:title>
</h:head>
<h:body>
<h:p>Hello, world!</h:p>
</h:body>
</h:html>
provably confuses the hell out of IE, even if one puts
<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="identity.xsl"?>
after the <?xml?> tag [*].
(Go ahead, DFS. Try it. Even IE7 can't handle this
construct. This has a number of ramifications for XSL
writers, and is very annoying and nonstandard, showing IE
for what it is: an HTML engine that can't yet handle more
sophisticated stuff.)
There's a few other issues, such as <div contenteditable="boolean"/>,
that one can point at as well, although one might be able to wave
that off as an extension. It's certainly not in the Standard, though.
To be fair, there's a few issues I have with XHTML as it stands,
but I've not looked lately. One issue is that
<h:a h:href="..." h:alt="...">link text</h:a>
(assuming xmlns:h as above) should work as expected, but most
people write it as
<h:a href="..." alt="...">link text</h:a>
and it is far from clear to me whether the attributes
inherit the namespace of the element or not.
Another issue is an implementation bug in Xalan, a popular
package in the freeware world. This bug manifests by generating
an unclosed <META> tag if the top element of the document is
<HTML> with the requisite namespace -- even if the stylesheet
requests <xsl:output method="xml">. (It is possible this has
been fixed by now.)
But neither of these issues excuses IE's bad behavior.
[*] identity.xsl can be written by looking at the XSL 1.0 spec.
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