In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Roy Schestowitz
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wrote
on Tue, 11 Dec 2007 00:42:50 +0000
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> Nokia to W3C: Ogg is proprietary, we need DRM on the Web
>
> ,----[ Quote ]
> | But remember, that's not what Nokia is objecting to: they are arguing that
> | Ogg is proprietary (it isn't) and that DRM should be part of a Web standard
> | (it shouldn't).
> `----
>
> http://www.boingboing.net/2007/12/09/nokia-to-w3c-ogg-is.html
>
> It will be very damaging if they don't issue some kind of apology, which they
> probably will.
Personally, I'm not sure what to make of this, since the
real intent, if it makes any sense to implement this at
all, should be to protect the *content* not the *format*.
In short, Metallica's works (just to pick an artist
at random) should not be copyable/convertable without
authorization regardless of whether we're talking AVI, MP3,
OGG, WMA, etc. At least, if one wants to ensure ownership
each and every byte on the Web, anyway. (Not horribly
likely at this point!)
Of course it gets real wacky if one goes into MIDI
transcriptions, various audio distortions (playing
sounds speeded up, slowed down, backwards, etc.),
digital-audio-redigital, and lyrics.
Prince in particular is suing YouTube, eBay, and BitTorrent
for music piracy, and various fans for portraying online
images of the star.
http://www.betanews.com/article/Prince_Sues_YouTube_eBay_and_Pirate_Bay/1189718935
http://music.guardian.co.uk/news/story/0,,2206460,00.html
Can't be too careful, I guess.
>
>
> Related:
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> Nokia to put Microsoft PlayReady onto S60 & S40 cellphone platforms
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> | Nokia is to support Microsoft's PlayReady content access technology into the
> | Nokia S60 and Series 40 mobile device platforms, starting in 2008.
> `----
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> http://www.itwire.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=13884&Itemid=1055
>
>
> Mozilla, Opera look to make video on the Web easier
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> ,----[ Quote ]
> | Firefox and Opera will support a new HTML tag specifically for embedding
> | video in Web pages. As long as the browsers support a video's specific codec,
> | or encoding method, the browsers will then be able to play the video without
> | launching third-party enabling software, said Chris Double, a Mozilla
> | engineer. Mozilla and Opera are also working to support the royalty-free
> | video codec Ogg Theora.
> `----
>
> http://news.yahoo.com/s/infoworld/20071207/tc_infoworld/93898
>
>
> Does your browser do video?
>
> ,----[ Quote
> | One of the many great features it sports, which will be of interest to free
> | formats enthusiastics, is the multimedia elements: <video> and <audio>.
> | Imagine being able to post video and audio in your blog as easily as you do
> | with images. On forums, on online shops, on office intranets, on anything. It
> | really has the potentional to revolutionize the Web. No more Flash, no more
> | YouTube. Independence! And all of this using Vorbis and Theora as the
> | baseline codecs!
> `----
>
> http://spreadopenmedia.org/2007/11/18/does-your-browser-do-video/
Imagine the copyright consequences, if the powers-that-be dislike
the notion. This could get slightly messy, but hopefully
reason will prevail.
>
>
> Opera Browser and Ogg Theora in HTML5 specs
>
> ,----[ Quote ]
> | This is an interview I made with the Opera CTO Hakon Wium Lie at the
> | Reboot 9.0 Web 2.0 conference in Copenhagen. He shows the OLPC XO beta-1 in
> | the direct sunlight and explains several things about the Opera browser
> | software running smoothly on it...
> `----
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> http://olpc.tv/2007/06/01/opera-browser-and-ogg-theora-in-html5-specs/
>
>
> Beta version of Open-Source video codec Ogg Theora released
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> ,----[ Quote ]
> | The source code of the libtheora 1.0 Beta 1 codec library can be downloaded
> | from the developer website.
> `----
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> http://www.heise.de/english/newsticker/news/96667/from/rss09
>
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> http://spreadopenmedia.org/
>
>
> How To Live an Open-Source Musical Life With Ogg Vorbis
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> ,----[ Quote ]
> | But with the launch of the FSF's web campaign, the time may be ripe
> | for Ogg Vorbis to truly shine. According to Chris "Monty" Montgomery,
> | creator of Ogg and founder of the Xiph.org Foundation which oversees
> | Ogg's development, such big-name backing has been a long time
> | coming.
> |
> | ... Linux users most likely have Ogg support built in to their machines
> | (but you guys already knew that).
> `----
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> http://www.wired.com/software/coolapps/news/2007/05/playogg
>
>
> 'Play OGG': FSF launches free audio format campaign
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> ,----[ Quote ]
> | The Free Software
> | Foundation (FSF) today launched PlayOGG.org, a campaign to encourage
> | use of the patent- and license-free standard OGG Vorbis as an
> | ethically, legally and technically superior audio alternative to
> | the proprietary MP3 format.
> `----
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> http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/info-fsf/2007-05/msg00001.html
>
>
> http://www.osnews.com/story.php/17860/Review-The-OGG-Compatible-iRiver-E10
>
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> Ogg Vorbis Gaining Industry Support
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> ,----[ Quote ]
> | While Ogg Vorbis format has not gained much adoption in music
> | sales and portable players, it is not an unsupported format in
> | the industry. Toy manufacturers (e.g. speaking dolls), voice
> | warning systems, and reactive audio devices exploit Ogg Vorbis
> | for its good quality at small bit-rates.
> `----
>
> http://hardware.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/02/06/1931244&from=rss
>
>
> Alcatel-Lucent says $1.5 billion not enough from Microsoft
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> ,----[ Quote ]
> | Alcatel-Lucent said in a court filing that $1.5 billion is not
> | enough to properly compensate it for Microsoft Corp.'s infringement
> | of two digital audio patents.
> `----
>
> http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/alcatel-lucent-says-15-billion-not/story.aspx?guid=%7B3B7D3262%2DF68F%2D4BEC%2D94C1%2D5C0A0EEE8021%7D&siteid=yhoof
> http://tinyurl.com/36hu5v
>
>
> Avoid the Vista badge, it means DRM inside
>
> ,----[ Quote ]
> | The root of this crappy DRM infection is Microsoft. It is the driving
> | force here. This has nothing to do with protecting content, as we
> | keep pointing out, there has never been a single thing that has had
> | a DRM infection applied that didn't end up cracked on the net in
> | hours. DRM is about walled gardens and control.
> |
> | He who controls the DRM infection controls the market. DRM is
> | about preventing you from doing anything with the devices
> | without paying the gatekeeper a fee. This is what MS wants,
> | nothing less than a slice of everything watched, listened to
> | or discussed from now on. DRM prevents others from playing
> | there, thanks to the DMCA and other anti-consumer laws.
> |
> | Make no mistake, MS is pushing the DRM malware as hard as
> | it can so it can rake in money hand over fist with no
> | competition. It is really good at lock-in, in fact, the firm
> | based its entire business model on harming the user so they
> | have to comply and spend more.
> `----
>
> http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=38926
>
>
> Microsoft Tells Apple To Stop Complaining About DRM
>
> http://www.podcastingnews.com/2007/04/13/microsoft-apple-drm/
>
>
> Microsoft: We Like DRM
>
> http://www.forbes.com/2007/02/08/zune-drm-itunes-tech-media-cx_df_0208bach.html?partner=yahootix
> http://tinyurl.com/2lrz3y
>
>
> Why Microsoft will fight for DRM
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> http://km.lqz.ca/blog/tech/microsoft-fight-drm/
>
>
> Microsoft launches 'PlayReady' DRM system
>
> ,----[ Quote ]
> | Although digital rights management (DRM) is popular with content
> | creators, it has attracted criticism. Sony was widely attacked after
> | using a rootkit-like application to hide content protection on some
> | music CDs, and earlier this month Apple CEO Steve Jobs called on
> | the music industry to drop its use of DRM.
> `----
>
> http://news.com.com/2100-1039_3-6158553.html?part=rss&tag=2547-1_3-0-20&subj=news
>
>
> Golden Rant : Microsoft DRM's gone too far
>
> ,----[ Quote ]
> | Microsoft appears to have hit the wrong button on its critical
> | Windows XP download service late last month, pretty well forcing
> | every XP user to upgrade to Windows Media Player (WiMP) 11 if
> | they (like me and many others) have the automatic download/install
> | option enabled for critical updates.
> `----
>
> http://securityblog.itproportal.com/?p=712
>
>
> The Longest Suicide Note in History
>
> ,----[ Quote ]
> | Gutmann: The genie's out of the bottle before the operating system has even
> | been released! But that doesn't mean Vista users in particular - and
> | the computer community at large - won't end up paying for Microsoft's
> | DRM folly. At the risk of repeating myself repeating myself, yet
> | another reason to move to Linux.
> `---- ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
> http://blogs.pcworld.co.nz/pcworld/tux-love/2007/01/the_longest_suicide_note_in_hi.html
>
>
> DRM in Windows Vista
>
> ,----[ Quote ]
> | Windows Vista includes an array of "features" that you don't want.
> | These features will make your computer less reliable and less secure.
> | They'll make your computer less stable and run slower. They will
> | cause technical support problems. They may even require you to
> | upgrade some of your peripheral hardware and existing software.
> | And these features won't do anything useful. In fact, they're
> | working against you. They're digital rights management (DRM)
> | features built into Vista at the behest of the entertainment
> | industry.
> |
> | And you don't get to refuse them.
> `----
>
> http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2007/02/drm_in_windows.html
Oh, why would one want to? :-) Apart from the fact that they
assume everyone's guilty, increase the complexity of the product,
and slow things down more than a slug in molasses?
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