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Re: [News] Pamela Jones Beats FUD, Gets Award

Roy Schestowitz wrote:
> High Plains Thumper on Thursday:
>> Doug Mentohl wrote:
>> 
>>> I'm sure Pammy is well pleased that she's got someone like you on her
>>> side. One way of FUDing COLA would be to reply to positive posts with
>>> pretend support msgs and nonsensical vaguely off topic abuse and the
>>> use of daft aliases, like 'hadron quark' and 'high plains thumper'.
>>> Anyone seeing a mention of you two clowns wouldn't even bother reading
>>> the thread.
>> 
>> I'm not sure what you are talking about.  I enjoy reading PJ's work.
>> 
>> I just thought it an interesting parallel, how she was discussing about
>> the action of trolls in Grocklaw, which I find a striking parallel in
>> COLA.
>> 
>> A good example of this is one of the three stooges, Hadron, who seems
>> to like to follow me like a fly that sticks to manure.  Then Timmy and
>> Erik like to join in, which illustrates they are only here to troll.
>> 
>> I'm just a little surprised that you got stupid on me.
> 
> I think it was a case of misidentification. It is because of abusive
> trolls such as the ones whom you mentioned that you changed handles in
> _the first place_.

True.  It is interesting how the trolls will major on a minor, take a
theme (like monopoly issue, use of a single image on a website,
advocates using an alternate nym, ad nauseum), twist and distort the
truth.

This is where the differences lie between these Wintrolls and Linvocates. 
It does not take much research to debunk Wintroll lies.

When they get upset at an advocate's post, it is like jerking the chain
on a mad dog, except the dog at the other end is a Toy Poodle in bad need
of a fur trimming.

Oh, and as far as PJ's comments go, I also found this interesting:

http://10questions.peppla.com/pj.html.html

10 questions
Pamela Jones: A committee of one

This interview was conducted and translated by Pep Pla, during the months
of june and july 2007

> For about a year, I thought they would in fact succeed in destroying my
> reputation. The attacks were daily, all over the Internet. But I just
> kept on doing Groklaw, because I knew the research was good, solid, and
> worth putting out there. Here's what happened. The FOSS community is
> made up of brainiacs. That is our greatest strength as a geek
> community. The things that get you teased in school as kids turn out to
> be very useful as adults. People simply understood that it was an
> antiGroklaw FUD campaign. And they figured out who might be behind it. I
> didn't have to say or do much at all. Ironically, it ended up just
> making Groklaw more well-known. Funny.

In a similar vein, if advocates ignore the trollish actions and keep
posting the truth, others will see through the FUD.  Readers will see the
FUD for what it is, [F]ear, [U]uncertainty, and [D]oubt(tm).

> It helps to have a sense of humor, speaking of funny. When I wrote once
> that there is no Santa Claus, a small side point in a long and very
> serious article about something else, trolls made a big issue about it
> -- it was one of our most commented articles -- and it made me laugh so
> hard reading their comments about how there is too a Santa Claus and how
> awful I was to write that there wasn't, it cured me of caring about what
> they said from that day on. I got it that day. They just picked on
> something in every article to criticize. Every single article. Anything.
> Santa Claus, anything. Once I saw what the game was, it just made me
> laugh watching them work so hard at such nonsense. And that helped to
> make it stop. It wasn't working, and we were just laughing. Some Groklaw
> members spontaneously started to mock and imitate their style. They were
> just so much smarter than the trolls, it was no contest. So, we made it
> through intact. 

This is a great parallel to the trollish actions on COLA.  The trolls keep
defending "Santa Claus" issues like "Microsoft is not a monopoly",
"Linux is seriously buggy", "OpenOffice is not a serious office suite",
"Linux is not ready for the desktop", "HPT is a troll and nymshifter",
"advocates are criminal copyright artists for one advocate posting a
single image on his personal blog", "Roy tells lies" when posts are
partial quotes of web articles for information, and ad nauseum.

-- 
HPT

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