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Re: [News] Pamela Jones Beats FUD, Gets Award

  • Subject: Re: [News] Pamela Jones Beats FUD, Gets Award
  • From: Hadron <hadronquark@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 11:39:14 +0200
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High Plains Thumper <highplainsthumper@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes:

> Roy Schestowitz wrote:
>
>> OSCON: Open Source Awards 2007
>> 
>> ,----[ Quote ]
>> | Pamela Jones - Best FUD Fighter When the SCO drama was being played out,
>> | one website became the place to get your knowledge. Pamela, or PJ, as
>> | she is known, leads research and reporting of legal events important to
>> | the FOSS community. Through her tremendous work, Groklaw continues to be
>> | the place to get our regular dose of legal insight and analysis.
>> `----
>> 
>> http://radar.oreilly.com/archives/2007/07/oscon_open_sour_1.html
>
> I have a great respect and admiration for PJ's tenacity and consistency. 
> The below two paragraphs (parsed) I found an interesting read:

Do not make out she is a role model. It would demean her. She is not a
nymshifting lightweight who gets caught out. She defines and explains
the law - she doesnt just post links to stuff she doesnt understand like
you do.

>
>> As for trolls and deliberate meanness, people trying to undermine
>> Groklaw's reputation, at first it bothered me more than it does now. I
>> had to develop a thicker skin or stop doing Groklaw, so I developed a
>> thicker skin.
>
> This is what is happening in COLA.

What? You nymshifting and posting other peoples work all the time? Or
replying and shilling to your own posts?

>
>> When it first started, in late 2004, and it seemed like a deliberate
>> smear campaign, I thought, "What kind of people are these? Why are they
>> willing to behave so abominably, be so dishonest, deliberately try to
>> ruin my good name?"
>
> .... Bingo!

As you did when calling people names and backing up yourself in your
various nyms? Does she have Groklaw section which covers people like
you?

>
>> I had never known anyone like that before in my life, and it actually
>> kept me awake nights. Like going to a horror movie. You can't sleep for
>> weeks. Then I stopped thinking about it. It is what it is, I decided.
>> Maybe I never met such people before, but they were on the same planet
>> as I was the whole time. Then I relaxed a bit. But the thought was, how
>> far will people like this go? I can't imagine doing what they do for
>> money. Is that not a pitiful life choice? But where is *their* line?
>> They go way over mine already, so I thought about that quite a bit.
>
> Yep, doing it for the money, there is almost always a pretext for
> greed.

Proof of this? Notice she *actually* said:


"I can't imagine doing what they do for money"

Indicating that even if even if she were paid then she wouldn't do it.


>> For about a year, I thought they would in fact succeed in destroying my
>> reputation. The attacks were daily, all over the Internet. But I just
>> kept on doing Groklaw, because I knew the research was good, solid, and
>> worth putting out there. Here's what happened. The FOSS community is
>> made up of brainiacs. That is our greatest strength as a geek community.
>
> Fortunately here in COLA, we have advocates who are part of the FOSS
> community.

Like who? I have contributed to projects. Have you?

>
>> The things that get you teased in school as kids turn out to be very
>> useful as adults. People simply understood that it was an antiGroklaw
>> FUD campaign. And they figured out who might be behind it. I didn't have
>> to say or do much at all. Ironically, it ended up just making Groklaw
>> more well-known. Funny.
>
> True, we all know who is behind it.

Err, I don't. Please explain. I do know thought, that like anyone who
sticks their heads above the parapet in web land, there is always
someone who will, whether right or wrong, take pot shots.

Look at the baseless lies and rubbish you post about Windows, MS and
Apple for example.

When you attract the jackals and hyenas then you know you must be doing
something right. As it was in Pamela's case.
 

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