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[News] [Rival] Vista Successor a Grey Area, 64-bit Still Just a Pipedream?

Microsoft looks beyond Windows Server 2008

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| The specificity on the server side contrasts with silence from the
| desktop Windows unit, which has refused to talk about what comes
| after Vista. Microsoft has said it will have a service pack for
| Vista, but won't offer any details or time frame, nor will it
| talk about plans for future releases.
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http://news.zdnet.com/2100-3513_22-6184247.html

Dell doesn't ship 64-bit versions of Vista 

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| If you want to install Windows Vista Ultimate with 64 bit version, 
| you can purchase teh version from Dell, as Dell ship only Vista 
| ultimate in 64 bit version. It all happens due to business
| contract with microsoft. 
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http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=39644


Related:

More than half of Microsoft Vista needs re-writing 

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| "Up to 60% of the code in the new consumer version of Microsoft new Vista
| operating system is set to be rewritten..."
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http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=30516


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| "In the long years since XP was launched, Apple have come out with five
| major upgrades to OS X, upgrades which (dare I say it?) install with about
| as much effort as it takes to brush your teeth in the morning. No nightmare
| calls to tech-support, no sudden hardware incompatibilities, no hassle. Why
| hasn't Microsoft kept up? Unmaintainable"
| 
| "Right now, Microsoft has nowhere to run, and nowhere to hide. After all 
| the hype surrounding Vista, the Emperor has finally been revealed in all 
| his naked glory. Some folks have been predicting the demise of Microsoft. I
| wouldn't go that far, but I am wondering how we?re ever going to take
| Microsoft seriously again?"
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http://www.regdeveloper.co.uk/2007/04/29/vista_end_dream/


A history of Microsoft Windows - the inside story exposed 

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| 2004: (...)
| THE MANAGEMENT: "What do you mean it still doesn't work? Try
| harder!"
| 
| 2005: (...)
| "MAKE IT WORK! FOR GOD'S SAKE, MAKE IT WORK! Well, throw it away
| and use the server version then, that seems all right. Look, they
| won't know the difference, drop the database stuff, nobody remembers
| what we said in 1995 now! That was ten years ago! "Apple has what?
| 3D acceleration? So, we have DirectX. What, in the desktop? Really?
| What, even Stallman's beardie-weirdies have it? Oh hell. Right, you
| lot, make it look like this!"
| 
| 2006: Windows Vista
| THE MANAGEMENT: "Look, if we trickle it out to those mugs, I mean,
| valued customers who've already paid, we can say we released it this
| year and it'll buy us some more time..."
| 
| 2007: No, really Windows Vista, honest
| MARKETING DEPT: "Never mind the features, look at it! Isn't it shiny?
| Yes! Pretty!" 
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http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=37962


Microsoft cuts Windows virtualization features

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| The company is changing three key features of the hypervisor
| technology to try to stick to its schedule of releasing the
| technology within 180 days of completing its Windows Server
| "Longhorn" operating system, due to be finalized before the
| end of the year.
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http://news.zdnet.com/2100-3513_22-6182852.html


Microsoft admits Vista screwed - report 

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| Vista SP1 is code named "Fiji", presumably after a pretty looking
| island which is paralysed by coups.
| 
| In a statement regarding the service pack Microsoft admits that
| Vista has "high impact" problems.
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http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=37125


MS Insider: The Office Crew Isn't Smart Enough to Supplant Real Windows
Developers

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| "With Alchin retiring, MarkL and MarkZ, two of the most talented
| architects in MS already having left, the picture gets really
| ugly for the Windows division," my friend claimed, and the BV's
| core team members, Ian McDonald, Jack Mayo, Todd Wanke, Clyde
| Rodriguez and others are starting to connect the dots.
| 
| [...]
| 
| He concluded ominously. "A trainwreck of biblical proportions looms.
| Pick a good seat on the sidelines, trainwrecks this large take
| awhile to complete. Vista may be the last MS OS for some time to
| come, especially if Cutler decides to play hardball."
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http://www.emailbattles.com/2006/09/11/ms-insider-the-office-crew-isnt-smart-enough-to-supplant-real-windows-developers/
http://tinyurl.com/35eqrt


Allchin's 'Buy a Mac' E-Mail Exposed

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| "I must tell you everything in my soul tells me that we should do
| what I called plan (b) yesterday. We need a simple fast storage
| system. LH [Longhorn] is a pig and I don't see any solution to this
| problem. If we are to rise to the challenge of Linux and Apple, we
| need to start taking the lessons of 'scenario, simple, fast' to
| heart. Jim"
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http://www.microsoft-watch.com/content/operating_systems/allchins_buy_a_mac_email_exposed.html?kc=MWRSS02129TX1K0000535
http://tinyurl.com/y5cuu6


As Microsoft looks ahead, will Vista be the end of an era?

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| Once installed in the post, Mr Ozzie wrote an internal company
| memo that mapped out the challenges that face Microsoft. The
| message was clear: get Google, get with the internet and wean
| Microsoft off Windows as we know it.
| 
| "Through Google's focus they?ve gained a tremendously strong
| position," he said. "[Microsoft] must respond quickly and decisively
| . . . It's clear that if we fail to do so, our business as we know
| it is at risk."
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http://business.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,13129-2494732,00.html


Why Vista might be the last of its kind

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| Imagine this. One of the world's most powerful monopolies puts 10,000
| people to work for five years to create one new product. And nobody
| is really sure if anyone wants it. How's that for a gamble?
| 
| That's what we have with Windows Vista, the new computer-operating
| system from Microsoft that debuted last week for businesses and,
| next month, for consumers.
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http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/businesstechnology/2003460386_btview04.html


Vista: Microsoft's Last 'Big Bang' Operating System?

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| Yet for all the design missteps, overly ambitious plans, and
| personnel changes that led to a five-year lag between versions
| of Windows, questions about the future of Microsoft's software
| are top of mind for customers and partners. Ballmer swears to
| never let as much time elapse between Windows versions; the
| question now is how the company can keep churning out
| innovative products on a compressed timetable.
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http://newz.byethost31.com/Microsoft_vista_last_big_bang_operating_system.htm


Is Vista the End of Windows as We Know It?

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| The five-year long march to developing Windows Vista exposed just how
| broken Microsoft's Windows-development process is. It took far too
| long, major features were dropped along the way, and it was wrapped up
| in more red tape than the IRS. That's why I think that Vista will be the
| last of the "big-bang" Windows releases.
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http://www.oreillynet.com/windows/blog/2006/11/is_vista_the_end_of_windows_as.html


Life After Vista: Can Microsoft Retool for Web?

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| In a similar tug of war in the late 1990s, one internal faction
| lobbied to use Microsoft's Internet browser software to radically
| retool Windows for the Internet. But that faction lost out to a
| more PC-centric view of the Windows mission -- an outcome that some
| Microsoft insiders say is one reason the company fell behind in the
| Internet services Google and others now lead.
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http://online.wsj.com/public/article/SB116459728069433263-K0zAOblcMz_...
http://tinyurl.com/yjngqj


Windows Vista the last of its kind

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| Vista will be the last version of Windows that exists in its current,
| monolithic form, according to Gartner.
|
| Instead, the research firm predicts, Microsoft will be forced to
| migrate Windows to a modular architecture tied together through
| hardware-supported virtualisation. "The current, integrated architecture
| of Microsoft Windows is unsustainable - for enterprises and for
| Microsoft," wrote Gartner analysts Brian Gammage, Michael Silver and
| David Mitchell Smith.
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http://www.techworld.com/news/index.cfm?RSS&NewsID=6718


Vista users get the 64-bit blues

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| Microsoft is keen to stir up enthusiasm for Windows Vista, but
| when it comes to the 64-bit edition of the recently released
| operating system, the software giant is sending decidedly
| mixed messages.
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http://www.zdnet.com.au/news/software/soa/Vista_users_get_the_64_bit_blues/0,130061733,339273707,00.htm
http://tinyurl.com/224e3f


Microsoft Windows Vista: MISLEADING!

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| Do you have a 64-bit processor? Did you think you were going to get a
| 64-bit OS when you purchased your copy of Windows Vista?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxDd9iDcZWY


Next Release of OneCare Won't Support Vista x64

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| When Microsoft announced that it was ready to roll out Windows Live
| OneCare version 1.5 to coincide with the general release of Windows
| Vista, it omitted one important fact: the product will not support
| Vista x64 or XP x64.
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http://www.microsoft-watch.com/content/security/next_release_of_onecare_still_wontsupport_vista_x64.html?kc=MWRSS02129TX1K0000535
http://tinyurl.com/26ndme


Microsoft Vista 64 bit is no go in 2007 

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| Without an exception, they all think it's too early and the drivers
| won't be that polished for 64 bit either. AMD and Intel have CPUs which
| can support 64 operating systems but the drivers are still lame,
| unpolished and slow compared with 32 bit.
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http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=36938


Vista 64 VS Vista 32

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| Vista 64 has a slight advantage over the 32 Bit version speed
| wise, unfortunately due to the stringent drivers requirements
| for the 64 Bit versions, at this point
| my recommendations are to stick with the 32 Bit version of
| Vista until most of  hardware manufacturers and software
| manufactures (including Microsoft) decide to actually take
| advantage of the 64 Bit architecture!
| Even better: get serious and do some progress in this
| industry, I am sick and tired to just see marketing
| numbers and not actually progress here.
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http://vistaincompatible.com/forums/YaBB.pl?num=1171842357


Windows XP 64 is crap and things break and printers dont work and
quickbooks doesnt work the list goes on

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| Morale (sic) of the story is - if you are using Microsoft products, stay
| away from the cutting edge - it sucks pretty bad.
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http://www.pintmaster.com/20061212/windows-xp-64-is-crap-and-things-break-and-printers-dont-work-and-quickbooks-doesnt-work-the-list-goes-on/
http://tinyurl.com/yguyum


Support for Microsoft Windows XP x64 Not Worth Anything

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| Almost no one is supporting Microsoft Windows XP x64, the 64-bit
| version of Windows XP.
| 
| There are no Antivirus programs that work with x64 and most
| applications won't work with x64 (unless they run the crippled
| 32-bit equivalent).
| 
| Programs won't install printer drivers because, apparently, no one
| can figure out how to write a 64-bit printer driver.
| 
| If Windows XP x64 has this much trouble with basic elements such
| as printer drivers, how can anyone expect the much maligned Windows
| Vista to be of any value?
| 
| Frankly, my high opinion of Microsoft is quickly fading away, and
| my shop used to be a staunch Microsoft shop.
| 
| Open Source alternatives are looking better and better every
| day.
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http://roacm.blogspot.com/


Why There is Better Driver Support in 64-bit
Linux Than 64-bit Windows XP

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| In the free world of Linux I have a working, usable, fast
| and stable 64-bit operating system. In the secret world of
| Microsoft I will have to return to using the 32-bit version.
| But the question is will I? I think I will stick with Linux.
| It looks like I need to go back on my hands and knees and beg
| forgiveness from my SUSE 10.1 system for every doubting it
| and for my unfaithful fling with Microsoft.
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http://www.linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2006-10-17-031-26-RV-HE-MS


Sigrity Supports 64-bit Linux Computing Platforms

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| Sigrity, Inc., the market leader in signal and power integrity
| software solutions, today announced its full support for 64-bit
| Linux computing platforms by porting all of its signal and power
| integrity software products to systems running the 64-bit Linux
| operating system.
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http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/070115/20070115005002.html?.v=1

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