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Jerry McBride wrote:
> skydweller wrote:
>
>> Roy Schestowitz wrote:
>>
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>>> And the Nigerian government chose Windows [It didn't] why?
>>>
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>>> | That?s precisely what Nigeria did. Having used the Classmate with
>>> | Mandriva installed, I simply can?t find any flaws in the system that
>>> | would lead to such a switch. No deficiencies compared to Windows, no
>>> | performance problems, no installation problems, nothing. Mandriva just
>>> | works in this setting and works well. No wonder François Bancilhon was
>>> | angry.
>>> `----
>>>
>>> http://education.zdnet.com/?p=1338
>>
>> ...
>>
>> Mandriva 2008 "just works" in lots of settings. I chose it for my
>> desktop after getting tired of Gentoo updates running over 12 hours at a
>> clip;
>
> Yes, updates for Gentoo means "compiling from sources". If your box isn't
> updated regularly, then it can run into hours, even days, if a lot of
> packges are updated in mass.
No complaints, I ran Gentoo for almost 4 years and what (little) I know of
linux I learned on Gentoo. It had, for me, outlived its usefulness as a
combination desktop box/laboratory. The beauty of linux is that, at that
point, it was blissfully trivial to move on.
>
> But surely you DID KNOW that you could update your box with binaries...
> pre-compiled packages... Right????
Of course, OpenOffice and anything of Mozilla lineage being two prime
examples of things you *might* not want to compile. But beyond a few
things like that, binaries defeat the purpose to some extent.
>
>> and needing TLC due to many ~x86 packages.
>
> The unstable packages "~x86" are there for those that WANT to test new
> code. If you don't or didn't want to be a tester/debugger, you had/have no
> reason to change your Gentoo box from "x86" or stable code to "~x86"
> testing code... You made the decision to change it as the default install
> of Gentoo is "x86"... for the stable codebase.
>
> Why are you complaining about something you chose to do, in a public
> forum?
>
Chill out, dude. I'm explaining here why I made the move. For other
machines I will consider gentoo again in the future, and when my kids are
old enough, I will insist that they install it themselves (if it's still
around).
>> Don't get me wrong, I love Gentoo, but the updates can be tedious on a
>> six-year old box.
>
> Only if you sit there and watch it... I run a number of very dated DELL
> OPTIPLEX G50's as Gentoo cluster... They run 1.2Ghz celerons... I update
> regularly using "~x86" and I have no problems or complaints when/if
> something burps. I CHOSE to run unstable code and frankly I find it quite
> nice. As for the "tediousness" of it... I'm in bed while the
> updates/compiling goes on... no skin off my knuckles...
Sleep? What's that?
>
>> The Mandriva One
>> livecd works perfectly with all six of my family's desktops , some older,
>> some fairly recent, with eye-candy and wireless (4 different chipsets)
>> enabled out of the box sans hassle. I'll be taking that CD along on road
>> trips from now on.
>>
>
> Mandriva... awesome...
>
>> My two boys (7 and 9 years old) have their own desktops, each with
>> PCLinuxOS
>
> PCLinuxOS... more awesome... My 14 yearold Son ABSOLUTELY loves it on his
> laptop. His desktop is Gentoo... ofcourse.
>
>> (Mandriva derivative) and a dual-boot to Windows for the CD
>> games that
>> don't run under wine.
>
> Would you list what games you have that run under Wine? I'm interested.
> The boy and I Quake, Nexuis, ROT, Tremulous and Doom quite regularly and
> he's really kicking my tail. We've networked with a few neighbors and
> something new would be good.
I'm not a gamer, the kids mostly run those silly CD's tied in with the
animated movie du jour; I doubt you'd be interested.
>
>> The PCLinuxOS boxen each run squid/dansguardian
>> filtering with weekly blacklist updates, to shield them from access to
>> age-inappropriate sites. The $70/year for weekly blacklist updates is a
>> bargain.
>>
>
> On the family side of the home network, I setup squid as an http proxy
> with squidGuard...the blacklist updates are free for downloading...
>
>> Networking on the Windows side is verboten. They've been on this setup
>> for
>> about a year, and haven't booted into Windows in months. Timmy likes
>> sudoku, and spends a lot of time playing ksudoku when he's not online.
>> Matthew prefers SuperTux. They don't need Windows.
>>
>> Oh, and quality? A recent update to PCLinuxOS upgraded 338 packages on
>> one
>> of the boxes. This included replacement of beryl with compiz-fusion and
>> a
>> kernel upgrade. After restarting X (when prompted; no hacking required),
>> desktop reappeared as before, no fuss, no muss. Total time to upgrade:
>> 25
>> minutes. The machine was later rebooted to activate the new kernel; no
>> issues there, either. Everything worked, everything works. On two
>> machines.
>>
>
> My Son said of Linux compared to Windows.... "It just works". Prior to his
> using Linux, he was battleing windows virus and stuff like a real warrior.
> He just got tired of it.
>
> With PCLinuxOS you updated with binary packages that someone else
> compiled. I rather like the Gentoo way of doing it all myself... If I EVER
> had a question of what was being used in the home network, I could just
> browse the source myself.
>
>> Who needs Windows?
>>
>
> Agreed! And it's GOOD.
>
>
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