skydweller wrote:
> Roy Schestowitz wrote:
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>> And the Nigerian government chose Windows [It didn't] why?
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>> | That?s precisely what Nigeria did. Having used the Classmate with
>> | Mandriva installed, I simply can?t find any flaws in the system that
>> | would lead to such a switch. No deficiencies compared to Windows, no
>> | performance problems, no installation problems, nothing. Mandriva just
>> | works in this setting and works well. No wonder François Bancilhon was
>> | angry.
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>> http://education.zdnet.com/?p=1338
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> Mandriva 2008 "just works" in lots of settings. I chose it for my desktop
> after getting tired of Gentoo updates running over 12 hours at a clip;
Yes, updates for Gentoo means "compiling from sources". If your box isn't
updated regularly, then it can run into hours, even days, if a lot of
packges are updated in mass.
But surely you DID KNOW that you could update your box with binaries...
pre-compiled packages... Right????
> and needing TLC due to many ~x86 packages.
The unstable packages "~x86" are there for those that WANT to test new code.
If you don't or didn't want to be a tester/debugger, you had/have no reason
to change your Gentoo box from "x86" or stable code to "~x86" testing
code... You made the decision to change it as the default install of Gentoo
is "x86"... for the stable codebase.
Why are you complaining about something you chose to do, in a public forum?
> Don't get me wrong, I love Gentoo, but the updates can be tedious on a
> six-year old box.
Only if you sit there and watch it... I run a number of very dated DELL
OPTIPLEX G50's as Gentoo cluster... They run 1.2Ghz celerons... I update
regularly using "~x86" and I have no problems or complaints when/if
something burps. I CHOSE to run unstable code and frankly I find it quite
nice. As for the "tediousness" of it... I'm in bed while the
updates/compiling goes on... no skin off my knuckles...
> The Mandriva One
> livecd works perfectly with all six of my family's desktops , some older,
> some fairly recent, with eye-candy and wireless (4 different chipsets)
> enabled out of the box sans hassle. I'll be taking that CD along on road
> trips from now on.
>
Mandriva... awesome...
> My two boys (7 and 9 years old) have their own desktops, each with
> PCLinuxOS
PCLinuxOS... more awesome... My 14 yearold Son ABSOLUTELY loves it on his
laptop. His desktop is Gentoo... ofcourse.
> (Mandriva derivative) and a dual-boot to Windows for the CD
> games that
> don't run under wine.
Would you list what games you have that run under Wine? I'm interested. The
boy and I Quake, Nexuis, ROT, Tremulous and Doom quite regularly and he's
really kicking my tail. We've networked with a few neighbors and something
new would be good.
> The PCLinuxOS boxen each run squid/dansguardian
> filtering with weekly blacklist updates, to shield them from access to
> age-inappropriate sites. The $70/year for weekly blacklist updates is a
> bargain.
>
On the family side of the home network, I setup squid as an http proxy with
squidGuard...the blacklist updates are free for downloading...
> Networking on the Windows side is verboten. They've been on this setup
> for
> about a year, and haven't booted into Windows in months. Timmy likes
> sudoku, and spends a lot of time playing ksudoku when he's not online.
> Matthew prefers SuperTux. They don't need Windows.
>
> Oh, and quality? A recent update to PCLinuxOS upgraded 338 packages on
> one
> of the boxes. This included replacement of beryl with compiz-fusion and a
> kernel upgrade. After restarting X (when prompted; no hacking required),
> desktop reappeared as before, no fuss, no muss. Total time to upgrade: 25
> minutes. The machine was later rebooted to activate the new kernel; no
> issues there, either. Everything worked, everything works. On two
> machines.
>
My Son said of Linux compared to Windows.... "It just works". Prior to his
using Linux, he was battleing windows virus and stuff like a real warrior.
He just got tired of it.
With PCLinuxOS you updated with binary packages that someone else compiled.
I rather like the Gentoo way of doing it all myself... If I EVER had a
question of what was being used in the home network, I could just browse
the source myself.
> Who needs Windows?
>
Agreed! And it's GOOD.
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Jerry McBride (jmcbride@xxxxxxxxxx)
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