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[News] [Rival] Microsoft Joins Hands with the Anti-Torrents Brigade (Comcast) to Fight Google

  • Subject: [News] [Rival] Microsoft Joins Hands with the Anti-Torrents Brigade (Comcast) to Fight Google
  • From: Roy Schestowitz <newsgroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 11:11:33 +0000
  • Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy
  • Organization: Netscape / schestowitz.com
  • User-agent: KNode/0.10.4
Comcast, Microsoft team up to serve smaller firms

,----[ Quote ]
| Microsoft's move to offer the online software suite appears designed to 
| compete with a similar offering from rival Google Inc (GOOG.O: Quote, 
| Profile, Research) known as Google Apps.  
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http://www.reuters.com/article/marketsNews/idUKN1361814420071114?rpc=44

Don't small business complain that Microsoft tries to eliminate them? That was
in the news some weeks ago. How about Microsoft ignoring their existence in
patent debates?


Related:

Big businesses boast of patent benefits, for small businesses

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| A report published by an EU task force on intellectual property claims
| that small businesses benefit from a patent system, despite lacking
| almost any participation by the small business community.
| 
| Instead, the report, titled IPR (intellectual property rights) for
| competitiveness and innovation, was written up almost entirely by
| large corporations and the patent industry.
| ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
|
| [...]
| 
| The report does note objections from the likes of patentfrei.de and
| Sun Microsystems, which were recorded at some length in the report.
| But this does not appear to have impacted the conclusion of the
| report in any way
| 
| [...]
| 
| Jean-Pierre Laisne, of ObjectWeb, an open source software community,
| said that he found the report useless: participants were told that
| all their contributions would be recorded but at the end only
| those of Business Software Alliance and Microsoft were used.
`----      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/99155/big-businesses-boast-of-patent-benefits-for-small-businesses.html


Microsoft patents are striking again!

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| Beats me. What I can see here, in brief:
| 
|     * Microsoft patents are striking again. Somehow, they bothered to
|       inform the OSS community that FreeType2 is infringing some very
|       nice software patents.
| 
|     * openSUSE guys are morons. Their American boss has signed with
|       Microsoft a very nice agreement that confers them patent
|       immunity with regards to Microsoft, yet they seem to be unaware
|       of that. I can see now why they were defending the agreement:
|       they're so stupid that they can't understand what the covenant
|       was saying!
| 
|     * With regards to software patents, America is the worst thing that
|       could happen to the humanity. Hitler is dead, Stalin is dead,
|       software patents are very much alive. Thank you, America!
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http://beranger.org/index.php?article=2787


Commerce Secretary names Schramm to innovation panel

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| He will be part of a lineup that includes the Microsoft Corp. CEO
| Steve Ballmer, 3M CEO George Buckley, UPS Chairman and CEO Michael Eskew,
| IBM CEO Samuel Palmisano and Wal-Mart Stores Vice Chairman John
| Menzer.
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http://biz.yahoo.com/bizj/061206/1386414.html?.v=2


Features: Open-Source Software: Who Needs Intellectual Property?

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| The market for open-source software--uncopyrighted, freely
| reproducible computer programs--is not well understood by economists.
| A central source of surprise is that innovation can thrive in a
| market without traditional intellectual property (IP). But as we
| argued in a 2005 unpublished paper, "Perfectly Competitive Innovation,"
| as a matter of theory there is no reason to believe that monopoly
| power through IP is needed for innovation. The market for
| open-source software is the poster child for this perspective. 
| 
| First, understand that the market for open-source software is a
| classic example of a competitive market. It is characterized by
| the voluntary renunciation of copyright and patent. Buyers are
| entitled to make their own copies, modified or not, and sell them. 
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http://www.fee.org/publications/the-freeman/article.asp?aid=6608


Big businesses boast of patent benefits, for small businesses

,----[ Quote ]
| A report published by an EU task force on intellectual property claims
| that small businesses benefit from a patent system, despite lacking
| almost any participation by the small business community.
|
| Instead, the report, titled IPR (intellectual property rights) for
| competitiveness and innovation, was written up almost entirely by
| large corporations and the patent industry.
|
| [...]
|
| The report does note objections from the likes of patentfrei.de and
| Sun Microsystems, which were recorded at some length in the report.
| But this does not appear to have impacted the conclusion of the
| report in any way
|
| [...]
|
| Jean-Pierre Laisne, of ObjectWeb, an open source software community,
| said that he found the report useless: participants were told that
| all their contributions would be recorded but at the end only
| those of Business Software Alliance and Microsoft were used.
`---- 

http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/99155/big-businesses-boast-of-patent-benefits-for-small-businesses.html



,----[ Quote ]
| 'MS are key sponsors of "Voices For Innovation" aimed at MS customers
| and designed to put a positive spin on software patents and enlist people
| to lobby on their behalf.'
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http://aralbalkan.com/939


No trust in intellectual property

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| This is why I've argued before that open source is hugely amenable to
| trust. You can see the code. You know exactly what I have before
| you try to engage with me as a partner, customer, or competitor.
| And just because you can see what I have doesn't mean you
| necessarily have the right (or, at least, the right as you would
| prefer to have it) to use that software. Absolute transparency
| while still retaining the ability to profit.
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http://weblog.infoworld.com/openresource/archives/2007/02/no_trust_in_int.html


Consumer groups want Comcast fined for thwarting the Bible

,----[ Quote ]
| A number of consumer groups are petitioning the FCC to fine Comcast $195,000 
| for every customer affected by their BitTorrent-throttling practices. The FCC 
| has said in the past that service providers can't "block" customers from 
| using certain applications or websites, but it hasn't enforced that policy.   
`----

http://valleywag.com/tech/politics/consumer-groups-want-comcast-fined-for-thwarting-the-bible-317960.php


Comcast reported to FCC

,----[ Quote ]
| P2P throttling breaks FCC 'net neutrality' policy
| 
| [...]
| 
| Among the consumer groups who have approached the FCC are the Consumer 
| Federation of America, the Consumers Union, the Media Access Project and 
| professors at the Internet practices of the Yale, Harvard and Stanford law 
| schools.   
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http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/news/2007/11/02/comcast-reported-fcc


Comcast's "We Don't Throttle BitTorrent" Internal Talking Points Memo

http://consumerist.com/consumer/leaks/comcasts-we-dont-throttle-bittorrent-internal-talking-points-memo-315791.php


Comcast Isn’t Net Neutral; Are They Liars, Too?

,----[ Quote ]
| Following reports that Comcast isn’t net neutral, Consumerist blog has 
| acquired several leaks from Comcast insiders, claiming that they do indeed 
| use Sandvine for packet shaping, and that customer service representatives 
| are being told nothing about how the network technology works,   
`----

http://mashable.com/2007/10/26/comcast-isnt-net-neutral-are-they-liars-too/


Senators want probe of Comcast's BitTorrent 'discrimination'

,----[ Quote ]
| The senators suggested the incidents indicate "Congress should consider 
| adopting targeted regulations to protect consumers and ensure a vibrant and 
| open communications platform."  
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http://www.news.com/8301-10784_3-9805308-7.html?part=rss&subj=news&tag=2547-1_3-0-20


Congressman to Comcast: Stop interfering with BitTorrent

,----[ Quote ]
| While a class action lawsuit is definitely one way to get Comcast to behave, 
| another perhaps more productive way to do so is to have politicians step in 
| and regulate.  
| 
| On Tuesday, I discussed the issue of Comcast's anti-BitTorrent "network 
| management" with Rep. Rick Boucher, D-Va., who is a strong supporter of 
| consumer rights and has led the battle to undo the damage caused by the 
| Digital Millennium Copyright Act, or DMCA.    
`----

http://www.news.com/8301-10784_3-9804158-7.html?part=rss&subj=news&tag=2547-1_3-0-20


OiNK Down, Norwegian BitTorrent Trackers Next

,----[ Quote ]
| With the BitTorrent world spinning on its heels after the shock takedown of 
| the huge OiNK tracker, there are now indications that the shutdowns may 
| continue. According to the lawyer who lost against ‘DVD Jon’, next stop is 
| Norway and raids are imminent.   
`----

http://torrentfreak.com/oink-down-norwegian-bittorrent-trackers-next-071024/


TorrentSpy Traffic Plunges After US Ban

,----[ Quote ]
| The MPAA has caused TorrentSpy, once the most popular BitTorrent site, some 
| serious headaches. After a federal judge ordered TorrentSpy to log all user 
| data stored in RAM, they decided to block access to US users, consequently 
| their traffic dropped significantly.   
`----

http://torrentfreak.com/torrentspy-traffic-plunges-after-us-ban-071006/


BitTorrent Admin Monitored by US Government, Forced to Dump Linux

,----[ Quote ]
| Sk0t, an ex-administrator of the EliteTorrents BitTorrent tracker is to have 
| his internet connection forcibly monitored by the US Government. If that 
| wasn’t bad enough, the monitoring software is Windows based - which means he 
| is being forced to ditch Linux - or face being barred from the internet.   
`----

http://torrentfreak.com/bittorrent-admin-monitored-by-us-government-forced-to-dump-linux/


Is Comcast's BitTorrent filtering violating the law?

,----[ Quote ]
| Assuming that the SYN packet goes through, the three-way handshake is allowed 
| to happen, then the two hosts will be able to begin communicating. Your ISP 
| can still kill the connection later, should they wish to, merely by blocking 
| the transmission of future packets.   
| 
| According to Torrent Freak, Comcast is not doing this. They are instead 
| sending a reset (or RST) packet to the Comcast customer, pretending to be 
| from the host at the end of the BitTorrent connection.   
`----

http://www.cnet.com/8301-13739_1-9769645-46.html


Comcast Cuts Off Heavy Internet Users

,----[ Quote ]
| Customers complain bandwidth limits are secret.
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http://consumeraffairs.com/news04/2007/08/comcast_ban.html?imw=Y


Torrentspy Disables Searching For US IPs

,----[ Quote
| Torrent indexing site Torrentspy.com appears to have disabled torrent 
| searches for IPs that originate in the United States. 
`----

http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/08/27/1541244&from=rss


Comcast Throttles BitTorrent Traffic, Seeding Impossible

,----[ Quote ]
| Over the past weeks more and more Comcast users started to notice that their 
| BitTorrent transfers were cut off. Most users report a significant decrease 
| in download speeds, and even worse, they are unable to seed their downloads. 
| A nightmare for people who want to keep up a positive ratio at private 
| trackers and for the speed of BitTorrent transfers in general.    
| 
| [...]
| 
| Last year we had a discussion whether traffic shaping is good or bad, and 
| ISPs made it pretty clear that they do not like P2P applications like 
| BitTorrent. One of the ISPs that joined our discussions said: “The fact is, 
| P2P is (from my point of view) a plague - a cancer, that will consume all the 
| bandwidth that I can provide. It’s an insatiable appetite.”, and another one 
| stated: “P2P applications can cripple a network, they’re like leaches. Just 
| because you pay 49.99 for a 1.5-3.0mbps connection doesn’t mean your entitled 
| to use whatever protocols you wish on your ISP’s network without them 
| provisioning it to make the network experience good for all users involved.”        
`----

http://torrentfreak.com/comcast-throttles-bittorrent-traffic-seeding-impossible/

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