____/ Kier on Thursday 06 September 2007 11:20 : \____
> On Wed, 05 Sep 2007 14:37:30 +0100, Roy Schestowitz wrote:
>
>> ____/ Kier on Wednesday 05 September 2007 10:52 : \____
>>
>>> On Wed, 05 Sep 2007 03:02:14 +0100, Roy Schestowitz wrote:
>>>
>>>> ____/ [H]omer on Tuesday 04 September 2007 22:17 : \____
>>>>
>>>>> Verily I say unto thee, that Geico Caveman spake thusly:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Only a moron would bet his company's life on Mono. Its very likely
>>>>>> patent encumbered (that is probably the idea behind Microsoft
>>>>>> tolerating/encouraging its use anyways - compromise the legal
>>>>>> standing of systems while making it indispensable, and then milk them
>>>>>> for whatever it is worth - old, familiar modus operandi).
>>>>>
>>>>> The infestation of GNU/Linux with Mono is an issue that is far more
>>>>> serious than just patents. Do we really want to adopt Microsoft's
>>>>> principles and methodologies? How convenient for Microsoft if we did.
>>>>> Then, not only would they have easily verifiable grounds to claim
>>>>> "infringement" in later years, but they'd also have perverted GNU/Linux
>>>>> at the most fundamental level - at the source. How long before some of
>>>>> those Windows-esque design flaws started to manifest in GNU/Linux, and
>>>>> turn it into a bloated, bug-infested, encumbered, mess of Slopware? It's
>>>>> the ultimate sabotage strategy - destroy thine enemy from within.
>>>>>
>>>>> And just to be clear, no I don't think Microsoft has any intention of
>>>>> ever actually litigating. It's about control, and the power to extract
>>>>> revenue - even from a competitor. They rattle their sabres and the
>>>>> weak-minded cowards jump, sign papers, and give away their rights. As
>>>>> far as Microsoft is concerned GNU/Linux is just another revenue stream,
>>>>> ripe for exploitation. They wouldn't dare to damage that, but they'll
>>>>> certainly crack the whip when their pet monkeys step out of line, just
>>>>> like they do with their non-Linux partners.
>>>>>
>>>>> Microsoft probably anticipates that particular revenue stream drying up
>>>>> somewhere down the line, at which point they'll dump it like a sack of
>>>>> rotten potatoes. Some of us in the community would like to rescue those
>>>>> goods, /before/ they go rotten. Others, like Torvalds, seem naively
>>>>> unconcerned, perhaps even disingenuously so.
>>>>>
>>>>>> I am surprised that you would be promoting its use in *any* way, Roy.
>>>>>>
>>>>> AFAICT Roy is merely warning us of an increased rate of Mono adoption,
>>>>> so we may be better prepared to defend against it.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Anything with Miguel de Icaza's handprints on it should be avoided
>>>>>> like plague. The man is not much more than a stool pigeon.
>>>>>
>>>>> De Icaza is one of the principle saboteurs. Our very own Judas.
>>>>
>>>> To paraphrase someone who put it nicely, de Icaza is an entrepreneur
>>>> looking for an opportunity at Microsoft.
>>>
>>> It's a good thing he doesn't read this group, or he might consider suing
>>> everyone who's defamed his character here. Perhaps some of you should
>>> consider moderating your language.
>>
>> I did not use any improper language (maybe others did). BTW, de Icaza posted
>> here some months ago.
>
> Calling him stool pgeon and judas hardly seems moderate. Why not email him
> and ask him to post his views?
Yes, I saw that and didn't like it either. Not *my* words.
> A reputable magazine like Linux Format seems to have no problem with him.
> Maybe that should tell you something.
Magazines, like journalists, make no enemies. It's one of the reasons why
today's press is in such a miserable state. I'm not the only one saying this.
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