____/ Mark Kent on Friday 21 September 2007 10:21 : \____
> The Ghost In The Machine <ewill@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> espoused:
>> In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Mark Kent
>> on Thu, 20 Sep 2007 14:47:08 +0100
>>> Mr. Doug Hoel <dhoel@xxxxxxxxxxx> espoused:
>>>> "Mark Kent" <mark.kent@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>>>>> graeme <www.rillion.net@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> espoused:
>>>>>> MS released a Vista Ultimate "Extra" called DreamScene - it loops a
>>>>>> movie for wallpaper.
>>>>> It must be frustrating working for Microsoft now, where really, all you
>>>>> get to do is copy what's already out there.
>>>> You mean how this animated desktop that was just released (or possibly
>>>> released in 2002) is a cheap knock-off of Active Desktop which Microsoft
>>>> released in 1997.
>>>> Yet another example of OSS "innovation" where they shamelessly copy
>>>> existing Microsoft technology. I just can't wait to see the next version
>>>> of open-office where OSS will "innovate" the ribbon bar that MS-Office
>>>> 2007 has.
>>> 1997? X-windows-system had a changeable root-window years before that.
>>> It must be frustrating working for Microsoft, where all you get to do is
>>> copy what's out there.
>> As a second note: Amiga was more innovative than X
>> in this regard; a screen could hold multiple backdrop
>> windows (though the subsequent ones were invisible, being
>> covered up -- multiple backdrops is not all that useful a
>> capability, really, though multiple screens were, as one
>> could drag them around), and these were, apart from the
>> border, full-fledged windows capable of having requesters,
>> gadgets, and events [*]. (In Amiga, like in Windows,
>> there was no concept of a window manager; windows were
>> expected to decorate themselves with provided bordering
>> specifications, though a specialized title bar and sizing
>> flag trapped mouse events and handled resizing.)
>> In X the window manager has to get involved, and I'd
>> have to research the details (it may differ within Qt
>> and Gtk/Gdk); in Amiga Intuition this was automatic (or,
>> more precisely, Intuition handled most of the details).
> See my other posting on this. The display programme can render anything
> on the root window in X, which means that you can display videos,
> web-pages, or anything else. I included a couple of simple shell scripts
> as proof of concept, and am right now, here, looking at the BBC News
> pages being rendered on my root window every couple of minutes, as an
> "active desktop", just using a few simple unix commands.
Could do a quick GTK/Qt GUI within hours to wrap up this little scripts, sort
out the dependency and put it up on a repo. Voila! KDE/GNOME have Active
Desktop right there for point-and-clickers. Modularity pays off. Development
is fast and the outcome robust.
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