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[News] [Rival] Microosft Jack Bets on 5 Years Between Vista and "7" (aka "Vapor")

  • Subject: [News] [Rival] Microosft Jack Bets on 5 Years Between Vista and "7" (aka "Vapor")
  • From: Roy Schestowitz <newsgroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2008 15:43:07 +0100
  • Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy
  • User-agent: KNode/0.10.4
Hypesphere: nothing to Gates' Windows 7 "next year" quote

,----[ Quote ]
| In a world of tech reporting where one's memory apparently stretches back not 
| to the great Longhorn reboot but instead no further than one's breakfast, Mr. 
| Gates' totally vague comment morphs into a product launch announcement, at 
| least once the blogosphere gets ahold of it.   
| 
| Nevermind the fact that Mr. Gates has been wrong before about launch 
| timeframes.  Nevermind the fact that "the next year or so" does not equate 
| to "next year," at least not in the English language.  And nevermind that 
| Microsoft's public relations wing says that Gates' comments do not indicate a 
| change in the development process at Windows. The above quote is surely a 
| sign that we'll see Windows 7 in retail in a year's time. (And if you believe  
| that, I've got a patent on the semi-colon key I'll sell ya.)      
`----

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080406-hypesphere-nothing-to-gates-windows-7-next-year-quote.html

This didn't stop the BBC from airing a Microsoft commer^H^Hrticle _this
morning_ (long after the Microsoft correction).

Gates hints at Vista 'successor'

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7334123.stm

Microsoft Jack:

Silly stories about Windows 7

,----[ Quote ]
| So if Microsoft says 2010 and you assume 2011, you'll be right more often 
| than wrong. Yes, it is possible that Steve Sinofsky -- the new guy from 
| Office who has taken over Windows -- will actually get his first version out 
| on time. He's good. But still, I'll believe it when it happens.   
| 
| Quite why anybody's bothered about Windows 7 at this stage remains a mystery. 
| Nobody knows what it will be like, except that it's based on Vista, with all 
| the same plumbing, not on XP.  
`----

http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/technology/2008/04/06/silly_stories_about_windows_7.html


Recent:

BBC pinches hot new columnist from Microsoft

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/12/14/bill_gates_bbc_secrets/


Feeling the heat at Microsoft

,----[ Quote ]
| A couple of years ago you reiterated that IBM was Microsoft's biggest 
| competitor and you said not just on the business side, but overall. If I ask 
| you who is Microsoft's biggest competitor now, who would it be?  
| 
| Ballmer: Open...Linux. I don't want to say open source. Linux, certainly have 
| to go with that. 
`----

http://www.news.com/Feeling-the-heat-at-Microsoft/2008-1012_3-6232458.html?tag=ne.fd.mnbc


BBC Director General grilled by MPs on iPlayer

,----[ Quote ]
| During the meeting there is discussion of iPlayer’s total cost to the licence 
| fee-payer - the BBC representatives are unable to give a figure, but start 
| the bidding at £20m, excluding staff costs. Thomson gives incorrect 
| information - that Mac and Linux versions of iPlayer have the same 
| functionality as Windows versions - and has to change his evidence at the 
| end. Perhaps it was this confusion that prompted Dr John Pugh MP to follow up 
| the encounter with a letter direct to Mark Thomson today discussing platform 
| neutrality in greater detail. A copy of this letter has been passed to the 
| Open Rights Group.        
`----

http://www.openrightsgroup.org/2008/01/10/bbc-director-general-grilled-by-mps-on-iplayer/


Related:

Beeb slammed for 'fawning' to Bill Gates 

,----[ Quote ]
| BBC viewers have flooded the corporation with complaints over how it
| covered the launch of Microsoft Vista earlier this week.
| 
| In one cringingly servile interview worthy of Uriah Heep, the
| Beeb's news presenter Hugh Edwards even thanked Gates at the
| end of it, presumably in appreciation at being allowed to give
| the Vole vast coverage for free.
| 
| In other TV news items presenters excitedly explained how Vistac
| ould be obtained and installed - details courtesy of the BBC's
| website.
| 
| But British viewers, currently forced to pay a £131.50 licence
| fee to maintain the BBC's "impartiality", were less than impressed.
| 
| Scores got in touch to complain that so much was Auntie up Bill's
| bum that you could barely see her corset.
`----

http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=37411


http://slated.org/bbc_microsoft_bias


Why Linux Users Should Be Furious At BBC

,----[ Quote ]
| Recently the BBC had a bit of a wake up call regarding numbers and how many 
| Linux users were really out there. Why does any of this matter? It has to do 
| with something the BBC provides called the iPlayer. Seriously, relying on 
| ActiveX is so "1990's" that it's painful, and as luck would have it, the 
| Linux users who wish to use this BBC player made sure that the BBC knew that 
| they were making the sought after content inaccessible to those people using 
| Linux.      
| 
| No iPlayer for Linux Users, But There Will Be An Alternative. Based on what I 
| have been able to gather thus far, it looks like we will see an Adobe Flash 
| option coming out soon. Then again, who really cares? Seriously, if the BBC 
| is this foolish to ignore how much Linux growth is taking place both in the 
| UK as well as the surrounding countries, then maybe people ought to be 
| looking elsewhere? Is it because this is indeed, the BBC? So there is the 
| belief that this is the people's media? Up until now, I enjoyed much of what 
| the BBC had to offer, but this entire thing is enough to have pushed me away.       
`----

http://www.osweekly.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2731&Itemid=449


Microsoft : Windows 7 still in planning stage and will take approximately 3
years to develop.
 
,----[ Quote ]
| January 26th, 2008. Looks like Microsoft is NOT planning to release Windows 7 
| in 2009. Microsoft's official response, by an email dated 26th January, 2008, 
| to WinVistaClub states that Windows 7 is still in the planning stage and will 
| take approximately 3 years to develop.    
`----

http://www.winvistaclub.com/i7.html


,----[ Quote ]
| From nathanm Mon Oct 01 11:42:05 1990
| To: billg; bradsi;
| Subject: SPARC, MIPS & Compaq
| DateL Tue Oct 02, 22:57:14 1990
|
| [...]
|
| The purpose of announcing early like this is to freeze the market at the 
|                                                 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
| OEM and ISV level. In this respect it is JUST like the original Windows 
| announcement ..
| 
| One might worry that this will help Sun because we will just have 
|                                                 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
| vaporware, that people will stop buying 486 machines, that we will have 
| ^^^^^^^^^
| endorsed RISC but not delivered .. So, Scott, do you really think you 
| can fight that avalanche?
`----

http://edge-op.org/iowa/www.iowaconsumercase.org/010807/PLEX_0411_A.pdf


Imaginary Innovations

,----[ Quote ]
| Microsoft, Intel and Motorola were especially vocal in promoting
| alliances with media brands that, a year later, have fizzled or
| haven't come to fruition at all.
| 
| Last year, Microsoft pumped up the crowds about its URGE music
| service, which it created in conjunction with Viacom's MTV. But
| while MTV is just now beginning to promote the service, Microsoft
| seems to have moved on in favor of the Zune Marketplace and the
| potential of satellite TV on Media Center PCs and Xbox 360s.
`----

http://www.forbes.com/2007/01/04/vaporware-ces-gadgets-tech-media-cx_rr_0105vaporware.html?partner=yahootix
http://tinyurl.com/y8fdkr


Vaporware '06: Return of the King

,----[ Quote ]
| 8. The "IPod Killer"
| 
| Every time we hear about a new portable audio device, it's touted
| as the magic bullet that will end the iPod's reign once and for
| all.
| 
| Oh, you mean that thing? The one with the ugly design and clunky
| user interface? Does it at least work with iTunes?
| 
| Microsoft's Zune was supposed to do the trick, but it's sitting
| on the shelves (even the SanDisk Sansa is selling better than Zune)w
| hile the kids are all enjoying their freshly unwrapped, shiny new
| iPods.
| 
| Note to everyone: It's a White Wire World. Get over it.
`----

http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,72350-1.html?tw=wn_story_page_next1


Microsoft Murders Max

,----[ Quote ]
| Well, it's official at any rate. Contrary to what you've heard, Windows
| Vista will not be shipping with any of the original technologies,
| features, capabilities, or subsystems originally promised (and for
| those of you that really couldn't tell: it's called sarcasm!). First
| it was the real Aero - complete visual control over one's system.
| Amazing graphics, sidebars that were a part of the Windows Core,
| Aero Diamond. Then it was NGSCB and its amazing security features
| - not DRM, but total privacy control; your privacy. Monad. Last
| we heard, it was WinFS, the king-pin feature that was promised
| to change the way you think of data... And now the last one is
| gone: Microsoft Max is dead.
`----

http://neosmart.net/blog/archives/277


Microsoft exec "guarantees" graphical superiority for 360 titles

,----[ Quote ]
| The idea of a "guarantee" of better-looking titles is substantially
| silly, however. Graphics quality is often subjective, and without a
| clear horsepower advantage of one system over the other, it will be
| difficult if not impossible to claim that titles on one system look better 
| than those on another. 
`----

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20061003-7894.html


More than half of Microsoft Vista needs re-writing 

,----[ Quote ]
| "Up to 60% of the code in the new consumer version of Microsoft new Vista
| operating system is set to be rewritten..."
`----

http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=30516


Microsoft admits Vista screwed - report 

,----[ Quote ]
| Vista SP1 is code named "Fiji", presumably after a pretty looking
| island which is paralysed by coups.
| 
| In a statement regarding the service pack Microsoft admits that
| Vista has "high impact" problems.
`----

http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=37125


MS Insider: The Office Crew Isn't Smart Enough to Supplant Real Windows
Developers

,----[ Quote ]
| "With Alchin retiring, MarkL and MarkZ, two of the most talented
| architects in MS already having left, the picture gets really
| ugly for the Windows division," my friend claimed, and the BV's
| core team members, Ian McDonald, Jack Mayo, Todd Wanke, Clyde
| Rodriguez and others are starting to connect the dots.
| 
| [...]
| 
| He concluded ominously. "A trainwreck of biblical proportions looms.
| Pick a good seat on the sidelines, trainwrecks this large take
| awhile to complete. Vista may be the last MS OS for some time to
| come, especially if Cutler decides to play hardball."
`----

http://www.emailbattles.com/2006/09/11/ms-insider-the-office-crew-isnt-smart-enough-to-supplant-real-windows-developers/
http://tinyurl.com/35eqrt

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