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[News] [Leak] Microsoft's Secret Meetings with Gartner Group ("Will Not Bash MS")

  • Subject: [News] [Leak] Microsoft's Secret Meetings with Gartner Group ("Will Not Bash MS")
  • From: Roy Schestowitz <newsgroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 01:52:21 +0000
  • Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy
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From: Jamin Spilzer
Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2006 9:30 PM
To: Brad Goldberg
CC: Martha Sherman; Lisa Worthington; Laura Dodd (Waggener Edstrom)
Subject: Steveb recap Draft

[…]

David Smith commented that Gartner will not bash MS if MS chooses to slip
Vista. Steve gave the analysts an explanation of how MS will Measure Vista
success. First is market measures such as absolute units (should be bigger),
percentage of Install base (small percentage, regardless of ’success’). Second
Steve keyed three audiences he wasts to see adopt Vista: developers,
enterprises and consumer word of mouth (a “je ne sais qua”) that reaffirms
Windows at the center of computing….

http://boycottnovell.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/1120mails.pdf

This is all part of unsealed evidence from the Intel-Microsoft criminal case,
which is ongoing. Ballmer will soon be deposed for this collusion.

"LH [Longhorn] is a pig and I don't see any solution to this problem. If we are
to rise to the challenge of Linux..."

                --Jim Allchin, Microsoft


Recent:

More inside dirt coming in Vista suit?

,----[ Quote ]
| Microsoft is opposing the Ballmer deposition and that proposed method of
| distribution. But based on the principles applied previously in the case, it
| appears likely that many of the documents will be unsealed.
`----

http://www.techflash.com/microsoft/More_inside_dirt_in_Vista_case33861109.html


Call between CEOs questioned in Vista case

,----[ Quote ]
| Plaintiffs' lawyers in the 'Vista Capable' case want to know what Steve
| Ballmer said to Intel CEO Paul Otellini during a phone conversation the two
| men had on the same day that Microsoft decided to loosen the requirements
| needed for a PC to get a 'Vista Capable' sticker.
`----

http://blog.seattlepi.nwsource.com/microsoft/archives/151674.asp?source=rss


Microsoft tries to avoid Ballmer deposition in Vista suit

,----[ Quote ]
| Microsoft Corp. Chief Executive Steve Ballmer is the subject of a new legal
| squabble in a lawsuit over the company's Windows Vista marketing practices.
`----

http://www.bizjournals.com/seattle/stories/2008/09/29/daily37.html


Vista Capable plaintiffs subpoena PC titans

,----[ Quote ]
| Other notable names on the list include Intel and former Windows chief Jim
| Allchin.
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http://blog.seattlepi.nwsource.com/microsoft/archives/135018.asp


Microsoft tries to stop more ‘Vista-capable’ e-mails from going public

,----[ Quote ]
| Microsoft is trying to put the kibosh on more of its internal (and
| embarassing) e-mail messages around its Vista marketing plans going public.
|
| [...]
|
| With every version of Windows, Microsoft has worked with hardware partners to
| find new ways to try to convince users they need more and more powerful
| machines to take advantage of more feature-rich software. If Microsoft and
| its partners were/are successful, it means more money in the PC makers’ and
| Microsoft’s coffers. With Vista, this pact really back-fired, as the already
| published e-mails around Vista-capable — and more, as-yet-unpublicized
| messages — will make evident.      
`----

http://blogs.zdnet.com/microsoft/?p=1254


Microsoft challenges 'Vista Capable' class action

,----[ Quote ]
| If granted, the motion would also postpone any new disclosures of potentially
| embarrassing company e-mails.
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http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9067400


They Criticized Vista. And They Should Know.

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| Act 1: In 2005, Microsoft plans to say that only PCs that are properly
| equipped to handle the heavy graphics demands of Vista are “Vista Ready.”
|
| Act 2: In early 2006, Microsoft decides to drop the graphics-related hardware
| requirement in order to avoid hurting Windows XP sales on low-end machines
| while Vista is readied. (A customer could reasonably conclude that Microsoft
| is saying, Buy Now, Upgrade Later.) A semantic adjustment is made: Instead of
| saying that a PC is “Vista Ready,” which might convey the idea that, well, it
| is ready to run Vista, a PC will be described as “Vista Capable,” which
| supposedly signals that no promises are made about which version of Vista
| will actually work.      
|
| The decision to drop the original hardware requirements is accompanied by
| considerable internal protest. The minimum hardware configuration was set so
| low that “even a piece of junk will qualify,” Anantha Kancherla, a Microsoft
| program manager, said in an internal e-mail message among those recently
| unsealed, adding, “It will be a complete tragedy if we allowed it.”    
|
| Act 3: In 2007, Vista is released in multiple versions, including “Home
| Basic,” which lacks Vista’s distinctive graphics. This placed Microsoft’s
| partners in an embarrassing position. Dell, which gave Microsoft a postmortem
| report that was also included among court documents, dryly
| remarked: “Customers did not understand what ‘Capable’ meant and expected
| more than could/would be delivered.”    
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http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/09/business/09digi.html?_r=2&pagewanted=2&oref=slogin


Microsoft knew of Vista shortcoming prior to release

http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/microsoft-knew-vista-shortcoming-prior/story.aspx?guid=%7B75BE59C7%2DEFA1%2D48B5%2DB4A4%2D90F5E01A52A0%7D&siteid=yhoof


Microsoft dropped Vista hardware spec to raise Intel profits

http://www.channelregister.co.uk/2008/03/01/microsoft_intel_vista_capable_emails/


Microsoft 'Caves' To Intel

http://www.forbes.com/2008/02/28/microsoft-vista-intel-tech-ebiz-cx_wt_0228vista.html?partner=yahootix


Has Vista lost all credibility?

http://apcmag.com/8344/has_vista_lost_all_credibility


E-mail: Microsoft 'botched' dealings with Intel, HP

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| Internal Microsoft e-mails revealed through a federal class-action lawsuit
| arising from the troubled launch last year of the Windows Vista operating
| system have provided a provocative inside look at the software giant's
| machinations with Intel, HP and Dell.  
|
| The e-mails include an exchange in which one senior Microsoft executive
| described dealings with computer makers as "really botched." Another manager
| complained Microsoft was "caving to Intel" and "really burning HP."  
|
| The e-mails are included in 145 pages of documents unsealed by U.S. District
| Judge Marsha Pechman in Seattle late Wednesday. They include internal
| reports and some handwritten notes that offer a rare look inside at the
| famed "Wintel" partnership, and touch upon the alliance's dealings with
| Hewlett-Packard, Dell and other computer makers.    
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http://origin.mercurynews.com/businessheadlines/ci_8417811?nclick_check=1
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